Help! I'm looking at official property records that claim a house is on 2.0 acres. The distances recorded don't make any sense (a property line that is 274 feet is clearly shorter than a property line that is 222 feet), and measuring the area roughly in google maps the property is 1.0 acres, half the size! The house is surrounded on 3 sides by roads that have been there since the house was built in 1979, which I believe was the last time it was surveyed. I don't think there are any problems with where the property boundaries actually are (and there definitely aren't any fences or structures in disputable areas), but it looks like a huge mistake was made in calculating the actual length/size. How is it possible that the area is so far off?
Post a photo of the description.
Get it surveyed! This isn't a free advice board
SKK_02, post: 374416, member: 11753 wrote: Help! I'm looking at official property records that claim a house is on 2.0 acres. The distances recorded don't make any sense (a property line that is 274 feet is clearly shorter than a property line that is 222 feet), and measuring the area roughly in google maps the property is 1.0 acres, half the size! The house is surrounded on 3 sides by roads that have been there since the house was built in 1979, which I believe was the last time it was surveyed. I don't think there are any problems with where the property boundaries actually are (and there definitely aren't any fences or structures in disputable areas), but it looks like a huge mistake was made in calculating the actual length/size. How is it possible that the area is so far off?
If you post a little more info we may be able to point to you in a better direction. It sounds like you are comparing tax records to what is occupied. It is not uncommon to see great so disparity in the two. It is also not really a 'problem'.
Good luck, Tom
roger_LS, post: 374418, member: 11550 wrote: This isn't a free advice board
Actually, it is. And the advice is worth every penny you pay!
It is listed as 86650 sq ft in the online property records. I'm trying to understand why it's so far off and whether there's even any value in having it surveyed, because as you said, it isn't a 'problem.' The only consequences I can see in NOT surveying would be on taxes or resale. Here's the image of the property boundaries from the county website:
222 supposed to be 322 maybe? What scale is that at?
First guess is that the record goes to the highway centerlines and this parcel fronts two highways.
A survey would show how much is owned and how much is useable. In all probability there are no errors.
There may also be an exception to the parcel.
You need more than a survey, you need a title report first.
Paul in PA
I get about 1.3 acres net and 1.6 acres gross but that drawing is way out of scale just looking at the numbers and how long things compared to others visually.
You really need your Deed description, it may calculate to about 2 acres.
Don't go by GIS.
First I was thinking it could be the the roads included as well in the area.
Also, sometimes lines will be made of 2 segments and a gis will only show one of the dimensions. Maybe that 222 line has a slight angle and also has a 115 as well. I've seen that plenty.
Here's an even better reason to not go by county GIS....
Ring ring...
Me: Hello
Guy: hi I need my property line surveyed. My neighbors house is on my property.
Me: it's on your property?
Guy: yes, I went on the county website and it shows my property line goes right through his house.
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Jim Frame, post: 374422, member: 10 wrote: Actually, it is. And the advice is worth every penny you pay!
touche
You have a very poor drawing here. If you scale the numbers given in green(309.56,154.12,222.9 --the best I can read them) against say a mm scale
you will not even be close to having the same ratio. Must be a bad TAX map.
Get the survey information and then came back.
JOHN NOLTON
SKK_02, post: 374416, member: 11753 wrote: ...I'm looking at official property records ....
Well, there does appear to be problems with that map. But it isn't a survey map. It looks like a tax assessors map, which are not definitive as to boundaries.
In fact there really is no such thing as "official property records" in the US (except in very limited areas where a title registration system is in place), there are only official deed records and tax roles.
You might contact a local surveyor, not necessarily to perform a survey, but to research your deed and those of adjoiners, and existing survey records. That might give you a better idea of how things stand. But to truly resolve all the issues you will likely need the full treatment.
Your property may be like many on the tax rolls.
It started out as 2 acres and the taxing entity has not updated the acreage after roads and highways have taken portions for construction.
Whenever in doubt about your property boundary and acreage consult a surveyor, so you are asking the right people.
As stated, post a deed description.
When I am contacted about any survey, I get directions to the property as I am finding my way there with Google Earth so I can have a view of the property and have them send me a copy of their deed or some information that I can see that deed before I will give any statements that I can back up.
You can't rely on Assessor Tax maps or online GIS property maps for anything other than a general graphic representation of the orientation of the properties. Heck, that north line shows a discrepancy of a foot without looking at it for more than 10 seconds. Pull the deed and/or the plat if it's platted and see what those say. That's the quickest way to determine what the acreage was intended to be.
I don't know what your roll is or why you're asking but the difference could be important if it's being sold price per foot/acre and the calculation is being made by what the Assessor is listing it as...
