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i give a coordinate listing and some corner points of existing buildings or other easy to measure objects.
I send a pdf along with the dwg with an explination that tempering with my drawing is at own risk.


 
Posted : January 27, 2017 8:46 am
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At a point in a conversation email ceases to be the most effective way to communicate. "My Reply Today" should have been a phone call.

Also, remember that if the issue should ever blow up and go to litigation your email will be discoverable. You will be on record resisting having a meeting to discuss known discrepancies. It won't be a good look.


 
Posted : January 27, 2017 8:51 am
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lmbrls, post: 411106, member: 6823 wrote: Prime Contractors Reply (To his credit):

Thanks for the explanation. I agree with your statements and concerns below. This has been relayed to (Sub-Contractor) and (Sub-Contractor's Surveyor) and I believe all discrepancies were within their CAD files and to my knowledge are being corrected.

I guess he actually listened. Sometimes, our best service to our Client is to make clear that the alleged "Survey Problem" is BS. Once that is determined, the real issue can be addressed. It could have been handled this more delicately, but why should I BS is BS.

My Lesson Learned is to submit Read Only files with instructions to Save As, so our original file will be retained. I am open to suggestions to other methods to assure the preservation of the original file after it is submitted to others.

A properly worded electronic release contained within the email delivery of the Cad files is all that is needed to protect yourself. You cannot control what happens to your product once it's in the hands of others and if you have no document hain of responsibility of said document things can go sideways rathat quickly.


 
Posted : January 27, 2017 8:57 am
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This is a prime example as to why I don't like to give drawing files to contractors unless absolutely necessary.

The project plans should contain enough information to stake the entire job. Yes it will take an understanding of engineering plans and some time to calculate/check/upload/check, but that's the nature of the work.


 
Posted : January 27, 2017 12:20 pm
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lmbrls, post: 411106, member: 6823 wrote: My Lesson Learned is to submit Read Only files with instructions to Save As, so our original file will be retained. I am open to suggestions to other methods to assure the preservation of the original file after it is submitted to others.

First, you keep a copy of the files you sent in a sequestered directory on your server. That means some seperate subdirectory from where you keep the working files. I use a /Correspondence/Outgoing/ setup for this

Second, send files attached to an email if possible (or on a CD or password protected thumb drive if it is not possible). That way they have to "saveas" the attached file to someplace different in order to use it and your original remains attached to the email.

Third, you keep a copy of the sent email so that you can easily produce it - and the attached file - later. If you use Outlook you can save that sent email as a .msg file in the /Correspondence/Outgoing/ directory.


 
Posted : January 27, 2017 2:15 pm

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