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Below is an example of the kind of work that title companies -- at least those in my area -- are putting out these days:

The Briggs Vineyard map was filed in 1890, not 1980. I surmise that the reference to "East Bay" is the result of an OCR "transcription" somewhere along the line.

If a warm body having any experience with parcel descriptions -- like a title officer, for example -- had actually taken the time to read this before putting it into a title report, these errors wouldn't be getting propagated throughout the title system. (And yes, this description does appear verbatim in at least one recorded deed.)


 
Posted : December 26, 2012 2:54 pm
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It seems that if this is the only problem then it's not really a problem. Justa typo. Even surveyors are not immunized from typos. But, I would say that if a surveyor did not catch this whilst doing his work the QA/QC would be on his part, not the title companies.


 
Posted : December 26, 2012 3:05 pm
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I would be interested in seeing a copy of that title report Jim. If you could, feel free to email me a copy at [email protected]

Thanks


 
Posted : December 26, 2012 3:55 pm
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Which county is it really in?

Yolo or Solano???????

Or is Yolo a fraction of the former Solano County?


 
Posted : December 26, 2012 5:56 pm
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Which county is it really in?

> Yolo or Solano???????

The parcel is located in a part of Yolo County that was formerly in Solano County. When Interstate 80 was realigned in the 1960s, it left an island of Solano County land between the highway and the railroad that's adjacent to the City of Davis, which is in Yolo County. Some time in the 1980s (as I recall) the land was being considered for development, and it made sense to make it a part of the city, so Solano relinquished it to Yolo. That development -- and the city annexation -- never happened, but the land remains under Yolo County jurisdiction.


 
Posted : December 26, 2012 7:17 pm

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"Title Company Quality Control" is the ultimate oxymoron.


 
Posted : December 26, 2012 7:31 pm
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It's currently cheaper for them to simply paper over the problem with a scrivener's error endorsement.


 
Posted : December 26, 2012 11:07 pm
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A County To County Transfer Of Jurisdiction Is Unusual...

Therefore the ordinances regarding it should be referenced in the title. I surmise a separation ordinance by Solano County, an acceptance ordinance by Yolo County and very likely a state legislative act.

Had Yolo been formed fron Solano that act is so common in barely ever gets a mention.

Practically the only one I ever see around here is a reference of "land in the Borough (Township) of Wilson, formerly the Township of Palmer". Development was ongoing when Wilson was formed in 1914 and incorporated as a Borough in 1920. It was being formed even before it had a name. The locals left the picking of a name to the US Presidential election of 1912. This was not an either or choice, Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) won defeating the incumbent Wiiliam Howard Taft (Republican), Eugene Debs (Socialist) and former President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive/Bull Moose).

Paul in PA


 
Posted : December 27, 2012 6:56 am
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Three of the four title companies here do no actual title work themselves. All obtain their title info from the SAME company in Malaysia... A close friend and title officer told me that their profits rose dramatically by doing this. They exclude almost everything imaginable from their reports, so their actual liability is extremely low.


 
Posted : December 27, 2012 8:08 am
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:good:


 
Posted : December 27, 2012 10:31 am

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One reason to do your own research. Look at the document that created the tract, then the latest, if different find out where and when it was changed so you can explain in your narrative why you did not use the latest and greatest description. Title reports are created for the benefit of Title issues, not location.
jud


 
Posted : December 27, 2012 12:49 pm
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A County To County Transfer Of Jurisdiction Is Unusual...

Utah tried to give Nevada a town not so long ago but Nevada wouldn't take it. Wendover is on the border along I-80. There is not much there except for the Casinos on the Nevada side. The town where most everyone lives is in Utah (used to me a military base - where they trained the bomb crews to blow up Japan). So all the costs and municipal services is in Utah but all the money and employment is in Nevada. So not much of a surprise that Nevada wouldn't take the town.


 
Posted : December 27, 2012 8:35 pm
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California Counties have changed a lot since 1850...

The link has a movie map which shows the evolution...

http://www.genealogyinc.com/california/maps/


 
Posted : December 27, 2012 10:19 pm