Notifications
Clear all

Deed forgery...

10 Posts
5 Users
0 Reactions
6 Views
(@joe-the-surveyor)
Posts: 1948
Registered
Topic starter
 

Who knew that you can't add..."The Grantor reserving for himself life use of the property" to the bottom of the deed...after its filed on the land records...

The things people try to get away with!!

 
Posted : December 28, 2010 12:15 pm
(@mightymoe)
Posts: 9920
Registered
 

Actually, we finished a legal description for a similar deed. The grantor reserved a life estate parcel around his ranch headquarters while selling the ranch to his neighbors.
The one you saw was done after the sale? That is odd.

 
Posted : December 28, 2010 12:28 pm
(@d-j-fenton)
Posts: 471
 

It's not odd, it's fraud...

😉

 
Posted : December 28, 2010 12:31 pm
(@mightymoe)
Posts: 9920
Registered
 

But it would be fraud that doesn't accomplish anything. I've seen a few life estate deeds and they are set up ahead of time. I just wonder if the filing got recorded backwards-I've seen that also.

 
Posted : December 28, 2010 12:48 pm
(@d-j-fenton)
Posts: 471
 

According to the original post someone just wrote it in on the bottom of the deed after recordation.

 
Posted : December 28, 2010 12:51 pm
(@mightymoe)
Posts: 9920
Registered
 

Got it!
I can't see that working here unless you break into the area where the originals are kept. Or unless someone in the Clerk's Office let you in. Otherwise you're just adding a line on the copy the public has access to. It would be just a big waste of time. Now they are scanned as they are recorded so there isn't anyway to do it.

 
Posted : December 28, 2010 1:00 pm
(@joe-the-surveyor)
Posts: 1948
Registered
Topic starter
 

I have no idea what he was thinking...

But attorneys are involved...so I'll say no more on the subject 😉

 
Posted : December 28, 2010 2:27 pm
(@mightymoe)
Posts: 9920
Registered
 

Yikes! 🙁

 
Posted : December 28, 2010 2:38 pm
(@a-harris)
Posts: 8761
 

Here the original documents are returned to either the deed maker or the Grantee depending upon whose address is given to the clerk.

I have come across original deeds that people have attempted to add or change what is on that portion where property descriptions and declarations are. The information was not as it appeared in the clerk's office and have seen a few dates tampered with.

One deed stands out in my memory that came thru the office in the mid 70s. A very old deed from 1920± when they were filled out by hand. The original deed description was erased and then the new information filled in using a different type of pen with a very different style of writing as the rest of the document.

After that, I began and have continued to verify what copies or originals that are given to me against what is in the public records.

 
Posted : December 28, 2010 3:33 pm
(@dave-karoly)
Posts: 12001
 

He should've hired Tom Cruise to sneak in the Recorder's office and replace their copy with his edited version LOL.

 
Posted : December 28, 2010 5:22 pm