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Hello, your input would be appreciated!

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Iƒ??m working in Section 18 Township 2S Range 5E of the Gila & Salt River Meridian, Arizona, said sectionƒ??s west boundary borders on the Gila River Indian reservation. My question stems from the interpretation of the field notes found in Field Book 5199 as it pertains to the Dependent Resurvey of the West Boundary of T. 2S., R. 5E and the South boundary of T, 1S, R 4E in 1983 conducted by John P Bennett and accepted on March 22, 1984.

The exterior township lines for T2S R5E were surveyed in 1892, please see attached Field Book 1606. Section corners and quarter corners were established.

The original survey for Township 2S Range 4E was conducted in 1919 and its supplemental plat in 1920.

The lots in T2S R4E closing upon the said west line from the west and the lots in T2S R5E closing upon the said west line from the east were completed after and in my opinion junior to the existing township line.

As Mr. Bennett runs north along the said line he refers to some of the monuments he sets as ƒ??onlyƒ? for example on page 14 of Book 5199 ƒ??7.59 The cor. Of secs. 13 and 24, T2S,R4E onlyƒ?, could you please clarify the application of only?

If in 1919 T2S R4E was lotted by protraction and later monumented in 1920 would the monumention along the said west line control only the subdivision of the lots in a northing orientation and its easting controlled by the existing township exterior line? Similarly for the lots closing from the east in T2S R5E?

Do the intermittent junior monuments in T2S R4E control the said west line? If so then all angle points apply? How does the ƒ??onlyƒ? specification apply?

In April of 2013 the City of Chandler took possession of ƒ??Lot 1, Ocotillo Power Centerƒ??.: see attached 2013-1069085 citing plat book 536 page 25 MCR. This plat does not show any bearing breaks along the said west line nor does any adjacent easements. Further deeds call ownership to the west line of the northwest quarter.

In any event Thank You!

Paul

 
Posted : September 26, 2019 2:31 pm
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"As Mr. Bennett runs north along the said line he refers to some of the monuments he sets as ƒ??onlyƒ? for example on page 14 of Book 5199 ƒ??7.59 The cor. Of secs. 13 and 24, T2S,R4E onlyƒ?, could you please clarify the application of only?"

The corners set on the Tp. line control only the sections in either Range.?ÿ This is due to the history sequence of surveys,?ÿ and the section grids within Townships 2 S R 4 E and R 5 E having independent relationships.?ÿ Normally, corners set on the township line are sIn et to control both sides.?ÿ However it is not uncommon when there were prior reservations that did not have the rectangular surveys surveyed inside the reservations in conjunction with the?ÿ original rectangular survey of federal lands adjoining them.

In your BLM 2009 Manual you can reference Section 4-34 for corner markings of corners controlling only two sections.?ÿ You would use the corner set "only" on the Township line for those sections in the appropriate Range.?ÿ ?ÿIn Chapter 3, under Extension and Completions Surveys (secs. 3-83 through 3-98) will provide information on how surveys are done for extension and completion in order to make the most regular and whole sections for original rectangular surveys done at different time periods requiring extending the subdivision of partially surveyed townships.?ÿ

Hope that answered your questions.?ÿ?ÿ

BTW, I noticed that Daryl Moistner ( @daryl-moistner ), poster on this forum was listed as a Surveying Aid on Mr. Bennett's 1983 survey.

 
Posted : September 26, 2019 6:52 pm
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@northernsurveyor

Morning,

Thanks for your explanation, I'll review those Sections you cited in the manual. My post was a question to the state BLM office, they called saying they were interested in the question and are looking further into it. When they come back I'll send you their comments. In any event Thanks again.

 
Posted : September 27, 2019 9:41 am
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@northernsurveyor

Hello, Here is the response from the Arizona BLM...

"After further review of the plat, it is correct. The scale of the bearing font makes it more difficult than usual to read. While the corners for T. 2 S., R. 4 E. were originally intended to be on the range line, they now serve as anglepoints along that line. If any of those corners are truly lost, they can be ignored for the purpose of your survey. Because T. 2 S., R. 4 E. was surveyed by the three mile method, lost corners for that Tp. are not restored with simple proportions. The Public Land Survey System, slowly evolves into a metes-and-bounds system, as each subsequent survey is conducted.

I hope this answered your question,"

It's interesting how the manual is interpreted and applied. Thanks again for your concern.

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Posted : October 9, 2019 9:30 am