Authority

What's worse is when you start to answer something and you get distracted and I think the lawn mower needs to have a new spark plug before I sharpen it and go to town to buy a gallon of ice cream for the new preacher at the church down the street visited yesterday at the old folks home.;-)

Authority is one of those tough things to identify. Kind of like pornography. Tough to define precisely, but, when you see it, you recognize it.

Okay, we'll get off your lawn gramps 😀

Sorry Mighty but your wrong. There are no rules on the prescribed markings of monuments in Wyoming according to the new State Board rules and regs. They gutted the old rules and regs when the legislative review idiots looked at them and now the new rules has no reference to any BLM manual anywhere and the marking of monuments. It's sad because the reference to the manual at least set a standard. I have viewed thousands of monuments over the years and I believe many times the monument markings are a reflection of the stupidity of the surveyor.

Pablo B-)

> Sorry Mighty but your wrong. There are no rules on the prescribed markings of monuments in Wyoming according to the new State Board rules and regs. They gutted the old rules and regs when the legislative review idiots looked at them and now the new rules has no reference to any BLM manual anywhere and the marking of monuments. It's sad because the reference to the manual at least set a standard. I have viewed thousands of monuments over the years and I believe many times the monument markings are a reflection of the stupidity of the surveyor.
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> Pablo B-)

I think that may be a good thing. Most of the standards of practice should not be in the statutes or board rules and regs. Standards of practice should be set by the professionals within the profession. How many other professions practice under standards that are written, interpreted and enforced by non-professionals? Who better to write, interpret and enforce professional standards than those within the profession? Does the state surveyor society have any plans to fill the void?

Yeah, I know Pablo, I was referring to the local subdivision regulations, they require that all caps are identified with the lot numbers. At first I was really annoyed, but I have to say it's really paid off. In some large subdivisions I've gotten calls from new owners wanting to know what is the cap that they found and all I have to say is what is stenciled on it?

We've worked out a system of marking them in the shop and then taping a tag on them with the cogo point number for the lot corner, which has really helped getting the correct cap on the rebar.

This is one time where a regulation I was really against has turned me into an advocate.;-)

Still don't like that they shove it down your throat, but even if they get rid of that regulation I'll keep doing it. And I would say to anyone wherever they survey to do it too, cause you won't regret it and it will make life easier in the long run and your clients will like it also.

We had an old timer that used to set two inch pipes and later he would insert a cap on a rebar inside the pipe. He would always mark the cap with the owners names and lines showing the configuration of the property lines. Maybe it's cause I'm old now, but I'm finally coming around to his way of thinking.

And as far as the manual goes, I have the guys mark the sectional caps just like it shows to do it. Don't add anything except for PLS #; no dots, dimples, extra lettering, if they need to know how to do one look it up, keeps everything simple.

It is a little vague in the county regulations if sectional monuments and surveys outside a subdivision review are included in the new requirements, but the way we do section markings we should be covered anyway.

Brian makes a good point. The problem being as usual that the standards are written by the foxes who are guarding the chicken coop. When the Board implements the rules and regs it normally goes through the review process and is effective in implementation of law. I know because I've been an investigator for the board. Mighty...I look at it as another art form in marking the caps, and adding a year on the cap for constructive notice. Typically I just stamp the identifiers on the cap and mark the inside lip of the cap with a magic marker and the point number. Still if there is a way to put the wrong cap on a monument I've done it. :-O

Pablo B-)

Typically I just stamp the identifiers on the cap and mark the inside lip of the cap with a magic marker and the point number. Still if there is a way to put the wrong cap on a monument I've done it

Exactly what your buddy Jamie does, and yes once in a while..........:-(

The most "fun" I had doing the stamping was a cemetery, cap every 8 by 6 feet.........

Gets old fast!!!!