This company is advertising on the side banner of this site. They do not appear to be surveyors.
http://abstractdraftingandsurveying.com/
Bad. Very bad. They are using the term "surveying" to describe a different set of products. Which ever States are involved need to be put on notice.
They are in Brooklyn, New York. I checked the BOR site for New York state but could not find a link to check for a Certificate of Authorization (what we call it in Alabama).
Oh he'll, there is at least one classically trained architect on this board, that I know of, who advertises surveying services.
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You can always contact the board at this email address:
enginbd@mail.nysed.gov
They should be able to clear up any questions
Yes, if you follow their "surveying" links, it leads to a floor plan. They probably consider making an "existing conditions" floor plan to be surveying ...
Even though they used the term "surveying" on their site, were any of the services they offered really surveying? I can't figure out why anybody would want anything they are offering anyway. I guess if a real estate agent needs a cheesy presentation of their listing, it would be OK, but I wouldn't be concerned about any competition with surveying products.
Whenever I see "SURVEY CREW AHEAD" I think, oh how nice they are going to Survey us on how we like our highway experience today.
"Architects advertising as Surveyors?"
The economy is MUCH worse than I thought.
from their website...
We at Abstract Drafting and Surveying will draft your property as a whole. Showing our clients accurately the size of their property and how it is being utilized in the real world.
If that isn't "surveying" I don't know what is! Would NOT fly in Florida.
from their website...
> We at Abstract Drafting and Surveying will draft your property as a whole. Showing our clients accurately the size of their property and how it is being utilized in the real world.
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> If that isn't "surveying" I don't know what is! Would NOT fly in Florida.
I'm not saying that they're not performing Land Surveying, but everyone has some confirmation bias and we tend to see one thing when we see the words like "survey" and property" where others may see something entirely different.
I can easily see a situation where an architect preparing a set of as-constructed drawings of the interior of a building could be described by a non-surveyor as showing the accurate size and utilization of the property.
from their website...
Good point. Maybe they should use "building" instead of "property". There is a clear legal interpretation of "property" and it isn't BIM.
As others see it ........
> I'm not saying that they're not performing Land Surveying, but everyone has some confirmation bias and we tend to see one thing when we see the words like "survey" and property" where others may see something entirely different.
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The RICs certainly has a different perspective on the term Land Surveying than we do in the US.
Bottom line is that if anyone makes measurements and a plat showing those measurements and how they relate to a property boundary, it is surveying and that requires a license.
What about landscape architects? I did a few plot plans for one over the summer, and at my suggestion got him to leave out his 'interpretation' of property lines, showing the fences and pavement instead. He was genuinely surprised showing the overlay of the lot would open him up to liability for surveying without a license.
Steve,
Under floor plans they indicate their product will save them money on having a survey done. I'd say their website is borderline on advertising a profession without a license to do so. Now if they had said Land Surveying and not noted that their services would save them money from having a survey done then that is a clearly crossing the line. I guess each state is different.
