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ALTA Survey and an undefined easement

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Ianw58-2
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Dangerous!

Based on actual ASCE 38-02 methods, we have found the One Call type marks to be as much as 10 feet off the actual location of the utilities. If you're going to establish the location of the utility, subsurface utility engineering and geo-prospecting is the only reliable method of locating the utility.

I have found that any re-write of recorded easements tend to show up as recorded descriptions in subsequent documents.

Just saying'...


 
Posted : September 8, 2012 9:46 am
nate-the-surveyor
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Ian, I have gone and bought a pipe and cable locator. An older fisher. I am persuaded that I can get wrong answers from it, and I can get right answers from it. The newer ones are better. Fundamentally, underground debris can really mess with things.

So, you are right.

Nate


 
Posted : September 8, 2012 10:02 am
Joe the Surveyor
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What we did was use ground penetrating radar to find, in our case, a intake pipe for a power plant. Then we field located, on the surface where the radar said the pipe was. I depicted the pipe on the ALTA stating that the pipe was located using GPR and the date. Then we drew up an easement (because there wasn't any) and then got sign-offs on it.


 
Posted : September 8, 2012 2:01 pm
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How do you guys survive doing $795 ALTA's and complying with all the rambling thoughts of idiot attorneys?

We have two subdivisions constructed on 160 acres. The owner of this 160 acres granted a blanket easement to an oil pipeline company in 1906. No one has ever found proof of any kind as to whether or not said pipeline was ever installed across any portion of the 160 acres. Many millions of dollars of construction have occured there since 1906. The title companies always list the blanket easement as a concern. Someday, someone is going to be digging for a swimming pool and think they are the new Jed Clampett. Or, maybe not.


 
Posted : September 9, 2012 7:55 am
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:good: Too funny.


 
Posted : September 9, 2012 5:22 pm

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