I hardly ever do ALTA surveys so have what is probably a basic question. There are several off site easements (utility, ingress/egress) that are appurtenant to the parcel I am surveying. I have been told by another surveyor that I am required to locate all improvements within these offsite easements. Is this true?
If so, what is the the purpose of Table A option 20A, if it isn't really optional?
You only have to draw easements that fall within the subject property. You can note, however, that the off site easements affect the subject parcel but their location falls off the property in the exception notes.
see Item 6-c-ii-d, "that it is not on, or does not touch, the surveyed property".
If item 20A is not selected, you do not have to show these items. If they are mentioned in the Exceptions, then you need to address them. You would show the easements, but not the located lines, etc.
Using the logic that you have been told you would have to draw an entire city's sewer system as it affects your parcel.
The sewer system is a good example, another that comes up alot is a regional detention area which could be several hundred acres. If item 20 is part of the contract then you would need to locate it and the improvements.
http://www.ellissurvey.com/Portals/0/2011%20Alta%20specifications.pdf
Please....the sewer system is a terrible example.
In that case, all one needs to do is show the connection to the main system out in the street. All the client needs to know is "how do I connect".
As to the question at hand See Items 5.b iii and 5.B iv.
oh no I just noticed in item D iv i'm required to put my email address on the survey, looks like I need to change my template.
The parcel I am serving is a commercial parcel with a shared parking lot, shared driveway, shared sidewalks, etc.
I guess this means I basically need to survey most of the other parcel because people from the other parcel can freely cross into the parcel I'm surveying?
I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing and maybe it is not a great example, but the idea is if the sewer easement is in the title report as an easement estate you would need to show it and the improvements if you agreed to option 20.
Is the "shared parking lot" an easement?
Does it appear in the description or the title report as such?
If so, it is possible you will have to show the easement as described, plus whatever is in it.
I would say yes and I would think the paking would need to be shown if option 9 is part of your agreement.
I will show all of the easements in relationship to the subject parcel and note what was observed in them (improvements)and note that they were not mapped, however, if 20 (a) is checked as an option then you must map the improvements. Which is why we must negotiate table "A" items prior to giving a quote.
I just re-reviewed the 2011 standards and it looks like the requirement for showing the plat recording date is gone...
Only the portion of the parking lot on the property needs to be shown. The cross agreements would be noted in the exceptions and given the "the parking agreements are blanket in nature and cannot be graphically depicted hereon". The idea that any of this stuff must be drawn in its entirety is absurd. There is a differance between the easements and the physical features.
> Only the portion of the parking lot on the property needs to be shown. The cross agreements would be noted in the exceptions and given the "the parking agreements are blanket in nature and cannot be graphically depicted hereon". The idea that any of this stuff must be drawn in its entirety is absurd. There is a differance between the easements and the physical features.
I don' think so, if you agreed to do option 20 then you need to do what it says.
20. _____ (a) Locate improvements within any offsite easements or servitudes benefitting the surveyed property that are disclosed in the Record Documents provided to the surveyor and that are observed in the process of conducting the survey (client to obtain necessary permissions).
_____ (b) Monuments placed (or a reference monument or witness to the corner) at all major corners of any offsite easements or servitudes benefitting the surveyed property and disclosed in Record Documents provided to the surveyor (client to obtain necessary permissions).
Mr. Ellis is correct. I went to a seminar on the new standards presented by one of the members of the committe that drafted the standards, and he said that if 20a is checked, then the entire offsite easement and the improvements within it need to be shown.
