Surveyor comes in from out of town. They don't know the area. They are in town, and done.
They did not contact any local surveyors, for info.
Then, it is discovered that they did not use the proper Section Corner. They just used the fence corner.
Then, they shot the bent rebar, and changed the record dist by some 0.4' and the brg too, because they shot to the top of the monument, and did not bother to pay any attention.
What do you call this? The overnight surveyor?
N
All too common
That's what I call it.
Dumbazzes who send crews to do the impossible because they do not allow them to do the job anywhere close to what must be done to do it correctly. One and done. Grab the cash and run.
> What do you call this? The overnight surveyor?
No, it's a wardrobe failure, obviously. If you've ever attended a CEU seminar, you will know that the expert is always someone from out of town, wearing a suit.
A loser
that refuses to be part of modern Surveying and to rely upon professionals and their proven techniques.
A person such as that could learn a lot if they would keep up with the goings on at BeerLeg
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I fail to see how contacting a local Surveyor would help this guy. Grabbing a fence corner and holding line to a disturbed monument points to a somewhat deeper issue...
More like fly-by-night.
It seems that the individuals plagued with this mindset are wired for doing their own thing, and have been for a long time.
Is the apprenticeship method, allowing us to teach 49 shortcuts?
N
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How does one not use the "proper section corner"?
Being from the great State of Connecticut, you lost me there.
It's the equivalent
It's the equivalent of starting from the plum tree instead of the cherry tree or maybe a walnut tree. It's a matter of grabbing something convenient so as to get gone again sooner.
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Or in other words...
"Corner search, we don't need no steenking corner search!"
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Since the advent of RTK, the surveyor in charge feels that his crew only needs to know how to push a button over a spot on the ground.
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> How does one not use the "proper section corner"?
By using the "improper section corner" (also known as the bogus corner), duh. 😀
[sarcasm]Hey, I got the bid!!!! Now what?[/sarcasm]
A very infectious disease that has spread throughout our profession.
Rest easy, Nate..
These boneheads are gonna be around for a while.
Here in Okie-land we have a tremendous number of "outatowners" that roll in, usually employed by energy outfits, rape and pillage then leave.
Here's a pic of one 'corner' that such an "outatowner" actually used and referenced.
He called it a 2" aluminum cap. It was 12' from a 1/2" IP that was centered in a gravel road and had 20 years or more of references filed. I guess he didn't bother to look up the references..
But he hopped out of the truck and found one hell of a signal on an old speaker magnet. He didn't even scratch the dirt out from around it. When contacted by phone, he really didn't want to talk much...said he'd call back and never did. What a weinie!!
About the only thing you can do is file another corner reference at that site and flame the idiot on your reference. Some of my colleagues are nice and don't mention their name of license number...I call them out and use terms like simpleton and bonehead. Hey maybe I'll get sued for slander someday!
> What do you call this? The overnight surveyor?
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"seagulls" : they fly into town s...t all over everything then leave.
> > What do you call this? The overnight surveyor?
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> No, it's a wardrobe failure, obviously. If you've ever attended a CEU seminar, you will know that the expert is always someone from out of town, wearing a suit.
Don't you play Expert regularly whereby the setting requires a suit? 🙂
Thats funny, big E!
Payden, I have actually found those speaker magnets before too.
And, I have thought, "Hey....." then realized what it was!
It bums me that some are committed to this profession, only by the dollars, and they did not bid enough dollars.
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> Don't you play Expert regularly whereby the setting requires a suit?
Sure. This is why I am familiar with the problem that Nate encountered, the Suitless Out-of-towner.
>...you will know that the expert is always someone from out of town, wearing a suit.
The suit makes the man.
> >...you will know that the expert is always someone from out of town, wearing a suit.
Either that or the circus is in town again. If it is a Shriner convention, the motorcycles that look as if they depleted the world chrome reserves will be a clue.
