Fixing boundary issues will cost more - Winona Post > Article
Does not happen in our area of practice.
It should, as it is a pain in the upper foot to try and beat out the construction machinery although we do have:
http://www.ogra.org/files/Resources/Special%20Provision%20Survey%20Monumentation.pdf
Cheers,
Derek
Similar to Ontario, California has this:
CLSA - California Landsurveyors Association
and monument preservation funds authorized by this:
CA Codes (gov:27580-27585)
Quote from the Article... "The ideal scenario would be for the county to get to the corners and establish where they are before people get their land surveyed," said Johnson and Scofield Surveyor Brian Wodele. "Because if the corners move after a survey, that's not a good thing."
that is kind of good, kind of bad. Not sure what to think.
DEREK G. GRAHAM OLS OLIP, post: 339866, member: 285 wrote: http://www.winonapost.com/Article/ArticleID/46003/Fixing-boundary-issues-will-cost-more&apos ;">Fixing boundary issues will cost more - Winona Post > Article
Does not happen in our area of practice.
It should, as it is a pain in the upper foot to try and beat out the construction machinery although we do have:
http://www.ogra.org/files/Resources/Special%20Provision%20Survey%20Monumentation.pdf&apos ;"> http://www.ogra.org/files/Resources/Special Provision Survey Monumentation.pdf
Cheers,
Derek
It's a nice article and probably quite a common issue in lots of places. In my county in Central Utah much of the main valley is so messed up I've come to the conclusion that trying to restore the section corners will cause more problems than resolve. Much has no way to ever restore the original and so much bad "dependent resurveying" has been done that ignored evidence and went straight to proportioning that using these monuments will for sure upset long established boundaries. Using the sectional system as restored or resurveyed for sure in these areas only causes chaos. What needs to be done is some some of establishment recognition surveys working with the land landowners thus creating a new record that matches the long established reality. What needs to be done is correct the record to the established boundaries not moving the boundaries to fit some record from the sectional system which can't be restored to solve the problem. From my view and the problem I have in my area, it's mostly a waste of money to restore the PLSS, that is if you are going to use the restored PLSS to re subdivide everything and move almost every established boundary. The problem won't be fixed with the re stored PLSS, every long established boundary still won't fit, so why do it? Put the money to some use that solves problems, not kick it down the road or cause more problems. About the only use for many of the restored PLSS monuments I'm referring to is ties and control points. You tie the new work to them, not stakeout the new work from them. You could do that with any recorded and durable control point. The days for section subdivision are mostly over, they done that, didn't do it perfectly and didn't keep track of the original PLSS corners, it's to late to do it over and the law says so!
I was editing a few typo's and when done the time run out. Oh well!
LRDay, post: 339947, member: 571 wrote: The days for section subdivision are mostly over, they done that, didn't do it perfectly and didn't keep track of the original PLSS corners, it's to late to do it over....
There are some open range areas in Western Oklahoma where a surveyor can play around with his BLM manual and his coon-skin cap and play like he's restoring things "the way it's suppose to be". But sadly what you've described is generally the norm. And I can accept that. We really need to be paying more attention to recovery of the subsequent surveys (and the ownership/ occupation that reflects them) rather than a long obliterated PLSS line.
But then the other day I ran into a "restored" section corner that was a joke. The point fell forty something feet south of a well fenced four way dirt road "section corner" intersection. After scratching my head for a few minutes (an hour), I realized the restoring "surveyor" had found a south quarter corner and the section corner east of there....and then "reset" this sw section corner by pushing (doubling) a line between those two points (neither had pedigree or filed references) to the west and set a corner. After I had shot a few things around the section, I realized a better fit could have been had by splitting the fences at the intersection. Some people and their idiot ideas.
"Buy 'em books and all they do is eat the pages....." :pinch: