A New Source of Field Books

We currently use Sokkia field books 8152-00 and 8152-10 but have used the Bogside and Peninsular books in the past.

I have hosted multiple RTK courses, engineers and Ologists attending. There is a schism with young crowd going all digital including photos of a setup, HI entered into the digital form I create. I'm on the side to take notes and work with surveyors that do, but see a migration away from notes. Advice?

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GISJoel_GetItSurveyed, post: 427582, member: 11867 wrote: I have hosted multiple RTK courses, engineers and Ologists attending. There is a schism with young crowd going all digital including photos of a setup, HI entered into the digital form I create. I'm on the side to take notes and work with surveyors that do, but see a migration away from notes. Advice?

If it's just GIS, why would anyone need notes in the first place? Does a GIS have any real professional liability in the same way that land surveyors do for professional opinions and work products?

Bill93, post: 427512, member: 87 wrote: I've been using one of those. I think what damaged my binding was clipping my pen to the pages to mark the page I was using, and then somehow letting it get squashed so the leverage partially tore the binding.

Could be your guys did similar?

Could be, but I used to keep a pencil in the page I was using and slam them shut for years, and never had any problem with the binding. Should probably do like poorPDOP and call them to complain, have the same thing, a whole shelf full of nice looking field books then the last 15 that look like hell, all torn up

roger_LS, post: 427588, member: 11550 wrote: Could be, but I used to keep a pencil in the page I was using and slam them shut for years, and never had any problem with the binding. Should probably do like poorPDOP and call them to complain, have the same thing, a whole shelf full of nice looking field books then the last 15 that look like hell, all torn up

Hmm. Suddenly I feel virtuous about using a small plastic draftsman's triangle as the placeholder in the field book. At any rate, I've used them since forever and never had a problem with the binding. Of course, it may not hurt that I also carry the book in the inside pocket of a Filson vest instead of as a temporary deposit at First Back Pocket of Levi's, Inc.

Kent McMillan, post: 427589, member: 3 wrote: Hmm. Suddenly I feel virtuous about using a small plastic draftsman's triangle as the placeholder in the field book. At any rate, I've used them since forever and never had a problem with the binding. Of course, it may not hurt that I also carry the book in the inside pocket of a Filson vest instead of as a temporary deposit at First Back Pocket of Levi's, Inc.

That's too slow for me because you've got to reach twice, once to get the book then a second time to get the pencil, then what do you do with the triangle when you're writing? But you bill by the hour so time wouldn't be an issue. You're free to milk the clients all you want with this constant shuffling of book, pencil and triangle.

I also keep a mechanical pencil inside the book, and carry it in an inside pocket of my Filson. The Teledyne, National and Sokkia bindings have all held up well despite the stress.

My drafting aid is a hotel key card. Usually from whichever hotel at which I last stayed.

Kent McMillan, post: 427475, member: 3 wrote: I would think that there are still surveyors who keep some data in a bound field book

you kids today with your new fangled books,
this is a real fb

Jim

Kent McMillan, post: 427589, member: 3 wrote: Suddenly I feel virtuous about using a small plastic draftsman's triangle as the placeholder in the field book.

Jim Frame, post: 427591, member: 10 wrote: My drafting aid is a hotel key card.

Doesn't anybody else use a timely T-41?

We use Rite In The Rain books almost exclusively since they are thoroughly proven to stand up to our famous Pacific Northwest weather. We celebrate the PNW Rain Festival from January 1 to December 31!!

Nonetheless, I think I'll take a closer look at these.

roger_LS, post: 427590, member: 11550 wrote: That's too slow for me because you've got to reach twice, once to get the book then a second time to get the pencil, then what do you do with the triangle when you're writing? But you bill by the hour so time wouldn't be an issue. You're free to milk the clients all you want with this constant shuffling of book, pencil and triangle.

I'll bet you spend way more time picking the pencil up off the ground (with search in weeds as a fun feature of that) and fiddling around with broken leads than the second you save not having to slip it out of a shirt or vest pocket.

James Vianna, post: 427642, member: 120 wrote: you kids today with your new fangled books,
this is a real fb

Believe it or not, even in the 1850s Texas surveyors were using pocket-sized commercially-made bound books for field records.

RADAR, post: 427644, member: 413 wrote: Doesn't anybody else use a timely T-41?

I do! Keep one right in the back of the book.

I also put a rubber band around the binding to hold my page.

Pilots who are members of AOPA receive a handy yellow 6" long straight edge/ruler. Just have to get used to scaling in nautical miles.

Kent McMillan, post: 427524, member: 3 wrote: As a rule, I don't work in the rain or write in the rain, although I realize that there are some waterlogged places where dry weather is a novelty and some accomodation is necessary.

I've had enough issues with total/stations/data collectors not getting along with rain that I am antsy about it. We usually have pretty intense lightning along with it, and that makes me REALLY antsy!

Dan Patterson, post: 427654, member: 1179 wrote:

I also put a rubber band around the binding to hold my page.

Bankers Clip! ... Google it.
They are hard to find but last forever. (Thanks Jack Getcher)

[USER=413]@RADAR[/USER]

Don't leave home without one.

could not resist after finding this pic...............

RADAR, post: 427644, member: 413 wrote: Doesn't anybody else use a timely T-41?

Carry 2-3 in my vest, one in my field book pocket and several more on the sun visor in the truck. I tend to drop a lot of them when I'm sewer trout fishing.

RADAR, post: 427644, member: 413 wrote: Doesn't anybody else use a timely T-41?

In the '90s equipment vendors gave those away. I was in my Trimble dealer's showroom earlier this week and they want $3 apiece for them!!! With the amount of $$$ we spend on Trimble they should give me a case of them!