The record along the south township line sections 31 and 32 is 165.75 chains. Measured distance between original stones is 10,584 feet. I believe there is a five chain bust in there and I haven't been able to find the corners (yet).
So today after several previous attempts I find the ¼ corner stone between sections 19 and 30. The record to the west township boundary is 45.95 chains. The measured distance is 2708 feet. I believe the 5 chain bust is carried all the way up the west tier of sections (you can see about a 5 chain bust along the north township boundary on the Quad map. Hopefully the ¼ stone find is the key to getting on the line of the east side of the west tier of sections (which I need to find). The deputy run pretty good line (just need to get on the line).
We shall see as I'm going hunting again with an updated search plan. I been trying off and on for about a decade to solve this puppy. I'm sure the corners are there I just need to look in the right place. The GCDB database works pretty good unless the record is bad, then it's almost useless (screws up the whole township - least squares with garbage input).
I'm trying to locate these corners before two big yellows dragging a big chain between them chews them up! I been averaging about section marker per hour, many are pristine original stones with no record beyond the original GLO survey. I always wanted a PLSS job like this!
> I'm trying to locate these corners before two big yellows dragging a big chain between them chews them up! I been averaging about section marker per hour, many are pristine original stones with no record beyond the original GLO survey. I always wanted a PLSS job like this!
A job? Are you making money doing this or just feeding a hobby while doing a public service? 😉
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a crew was using a whole chain rather than a halh-chain and the instrument man forgot to move the out keeper one time.
LR
The east west lines on the west tier are random then true...run the record line north from the southeast corners of 32 and 31 and see what you find. Run the Range line also...In Utah I've seen two different lines run for the range line and monumented. The second line states they destroyed the other stones but never did.
Pablo
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If we an 'out' or tally is 10 physical chains pulled out 'til the 11th pin is dropped that is 10 x 33 feet or 10 half chains which is 5 chains or 330 feet. Many PLSS compass have 8 click tally counters which gives the 8 by 5 or half mile which is the basic monumentation interval in the PLSS. If a tally is miscounted it results in a loss of 10 half chains or 5 chains full measure as the line is retraced.
A dropped 5 chains is a fairly common blunder we look for in PLSS surveys when retracing.
The 2-pole chain was prescribed in PLSS instruction until some later manuals for work in OR/WA area allowed a 4-pole chain. 😉
- jlw
"run the record line north from the southeast corners of 32 and 31 and see what you find."
I've already run most of the range line and found most of the corners and closing corners from the west. I want to run the line north from the common corner to section 32 and 31 just haven't been able to find it (might have been taken out from fence line clearing and then the five chain bust. I'm hoping to now find the line at the corner to sections 19, 20, 29 & 30. Then I'll be on my way, just subtract 5 chains from every closing to the range line. All the lots are going to be about 10 acres short (that's my theory anyway).
After a lot of pressure was put on the county to protect the PLSS from the dozer chaining of the fire area I got the job (bought it) to locate the corners. So yes I'm getting paid.
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I have heard a lot of anecdotal stories that while the manual may have specified a 2 pole chain, that was a rule frequently ignored. The surveyors of old may have "cheated" with a 66' chain or tied two 33' half chains together to make a full chain.
It's one of those things that's hard to prove, but I've heard too many stories to dismiss them all together.
