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I set that !!! TDD
pretty cool...it'd be interesting to look at the plat and notes..
Very cool. I've seen a similar preserved set pine post as the original section corner in Northern Wisconsin. The notches for the point were well preserved like this one in a similar situation. If I remember right, 2 older Forest Service surveyor held a 2 day seminar at Nicolet College in Rhinelander on how to identify the remains of a bearing tree back in the early 1990's. The first day was in the class room in where we learned on how to identify trees by their cellular structure with a magnifying glass. The second day was in the field where we actually identified some remains of bearing trees. We then crossed tape the ties which fell in a not quite knee deep swamp and lo and behold, one of the FS surveyors pulled out the bottom part of a notched pine post similar to this one.
Good stuff.
Why pull it out? How is it going to be replaced?
> If I remember right, 2 older Forest Service surveyor held a 2 day seminar at Nicolet College in Rhinelander on how to identify the remains of a bearing tree back in the early 1990's.
You've got a good memory Andy! The workshop was back in April, 1992 and taught by Milo Stefan and Dick Drahn of USFS. We are hoping to bring it back on a regular basis starting in the spring or fall of next year.
-Jeff
Michigan has a State Remonumention Program.
The good thing about this is that the post will be replaced with a county monument and witnessed. A Land Corner Recordation Certificate with all the information about the corner will be available to everyone on the states database.
http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/remon/
IMO, one bad point about the program is that the "old" monument is replaced no matter what it is. Such as when a 5 foot long 2" pipe and well point that will make your locator sing from 20 yards away, is replaced with a concrete monument and brass cap that when buried one foot under the road it will hardly ring at all and cannot be found without the witnesses. I am one of the few Surveyors that is not a big fan of this program for this resaon and a few other thing I will stay quite about for now.
Scott
> Why pull it out? How is it going to be replaced?
After they pulled it out, they were very easily able to stick it right back into the same hole they pulled it out of with no problem. We then scribed new bearing trees and tied it down again.
Milo Stefan and Dick Drahn were indeed the two surveyors.
I found a 2" pipe sticking up 2' which is the perpetuation of a quarter section corner (it replaced the original).
It had a rotten 2x2 redwood stake with a tag in it.
My initial thought was to replace it with an aluminum monument but changed my mind. That pipe is firmly set, probably at least 4' long. It is a good monument other than the tag is about to fall out. So I pulled the nail and tag out, jammed the remains of the plug down as far as I could then filled the pipe with Rockite and stuck a brass cap stamped for the corner into it. I flared the bottom of the stem of the cap with pliers, that thing is not coming out any time soon.
Of course it will light up the Schoenstedt like Christmas but there is no need, that thing will break your kneecap before you would need a pin finder.
[sarcasm]There you go, using common sense again.[/sarcasm]
Or "If it's not broke, don't fix it.
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Up here in New England that's not very old. Found monuments in Concord MA, that were on a plan from 1836. Found one in Lexington MA that appeared older, but no record of it so I don't know.