I read here often enough " my stamped paper drawing is gospel" because cad files can be changed. That is why I only work off of stamped approved drawings. I do have a couple of engineers that provide very good drawings and I work from them a lot. However, I always compare the cad drawings with the approved plan set and have found blunders that could have only been found by close comparison. I bought a very expensive foundation once because the 2 were different (the jurisdication had made a redline edit on the plan set that I missed).
Go forth, believe nothing and check everything! Oh, and be sure to bill accordingly!!!!!
Joe Ferg, post: 435369, member: 332 wrote: I bought a very expensive foundation once because the 2 were different (the jurisdication had made a redline edit on the plan set that I missed).
Go forth, believe nothing and check everything! Oh, and be sure to bill accordingly!!!!!
I wonder if there's a way that you can protect yourself by including language in the contract that any changes, modifications, etc, to plans must contain a change-order letter.
Early in my career I didn't notice that a set of pilings had moved, and we staked them as on the original plans. We had received a new set of plans where an issue that we'd noticed was fixed, and they explained the fix to us when they gave us the new plans, but nothing was said at all about the pilings being moved. Luckily, they were still able to work with the original location, just had to pour a little extra concrete, which they didn't hit us for.
My favorite quote from the engineer was, "what is your problem? The plans were approved by the agencies!"
Oh how the world changes, I thought they were to construct from. No Country for Old Men, Jp
JPH, post: 435500, member: 6636 wrote: I wonder if there's a way that you can protect yourself by including language in the contract that any changes, modifications, etc, to plans must contain a change-order letter.
Early in my career I didn't notice that a set of pilings had moved, and we staked them as on the original plans. We had received a new set of plans where an issue that we'd noticed was fixed, and they explained the fix to us when they gave us the new plans, but nothing was said at all about the pilings being moved. Luckily, they were still able to work with the original location, just had to pour a little extra concrete, which they didn't hit us for.
In the days before email there was fax. The engineering firm I worked for was staking the predecessor to today's big box lumber yards. We were faxed a change order on which some utility lines were revised. The problem was that not all of the revisions were noticed because of the fax quality. The company ended up buying a bunch of pipe. From then on company policy stated that change orders needed to be supplied in hard copy.
I have the following bullet points in my layout proposal assumptions.
?ú The contractor shall provide construction plans in AutoCAD or Microstation format.
?ú The contractor shall provide construction plan revisions to Orion Geomatics at least two (2) business days prior staking.
