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Where Are These Monuments Again?

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(@jim-frame)
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I'm okay with exaggerating the scale on map details, but there ought to be *some* semblance of reality to it.

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(North is up the page, and L8 has a bearing of N34?ø56'56'E.)

 
Posted : 19/08/2022 7:18 am
(@michigan-left)
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I've seen examples like this where people that don't understand local vs. SPC, geodesy, GNSS, etc. and they scale the linework from ground to grid (or grid to ground).?ÿ The points remain hooked to the original coordinate system and the linework changes. Quick inspection could indicate scaling linework down in this case, and then moving the linework to hold the "best" monument? Not sure why or how, but maybe?

 
Posted : 19/08/2022 9:24 am
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At a standard survey/engineering drawing scale, those distances are still so small that it's far cleaner to not even try to show them graphically. Given that they are not being held and don't appear to be reference monuments from which the PI/intersection was calculated, showing their orientation graphically is irrelevant.

A single leader with single text box, on the face of the main drawing, describing both objects would work equally well. Then again I really try to avoid details unless they are absolutely necessary. I'd rather add a sheet or two, especially now that everything is digital, than end up with a bunch of details that viewers have to jump back and forth between.

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(What does "U.O." mean, by the way?)

 
Posted : 19/08/2022 1:08 pm
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I'm OK with the scaling but I find the angular distortion is confusing. I think that I would have left off the 354.76 and 382.05 calls and put line bearings in their place.?ÿ Still, it is better than nothing.?ÿ Never let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

 
Posted : 19/08/2022 1:34 pm
(@jim-frame)
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At least get the graphics in the correct quadrants.?ÿ It's just not that hard to do.

 
Posted : 19/08/2022 2:31 pm
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@rover83?ÿ

U.O. = unknown origin

They are there but you don't have anything saying who set them and when.?ÿ Might have been a landowner.

 
Posted : 19/08/2022 4:43 pm
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I'm curious why the 1-1/4" IP was not just held. The two points are on top of each other almost.

Pretty poor detail none the less .

 
Posted : 19/08/2022 4:49 pm
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@holy-cow?ÿ

U. (F.) O. ???

Anything like BFR?

 
Posted : 19/08/2022 4:50 pm
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@gary_g?ÿ

why the pipe and not the IR?

 
Posted : 19/08/2022 10:21 pm
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Just guessing the pipe is older than the rebar. That's all.?ÿ

 
Posted : 20/08/2022 2:11 am
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Posted by: @gary_g

Just guessing the pipe is older than the rebar. That's all.?ÿ

That's the point. Either choice would be a guess.?ÿ

 
Posted : 20/08/2022 11:07 am
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UO usually means 'I didn't look for, ask about, or put in any effort related to this monument' ..

 
Posted : 20/08/2022 11:10 am
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Posted : 20/08/2022 12:08 pm
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@norman-oklahoma

Sorry to confuse the post. Either way the detail sucks.

 
Posted : 20/08/2022 1:05 pm
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Posted by: @flga-2-2
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If you go out there the is two lines drawn on the ground with annotation leaders painted, pretty obvious really.

 
Posted : 20/08/2022 3:35 pm
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