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(@tyler-brown)
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Has anyone made the jump to Civil 3d 2022? Our firm is currently running 2019 and we are deciding on whether it's worth while to upgrade.?ÿ

Pros? Cons?

 
Posted : 13/01/2022 10:54 am
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Our firm is Land Surveying only and mainly provides boundary and topographic surveys.. We do not use a lot of the features geared towards civil engineers which is why we've held off on the upgrade for so long.

 
Posted : 13/01/2022 11:02 am
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No 2022 just yet, but I have been using C3d 2021 and have noticed no serious bugs. Backwards compatibility to 2018 is promised in 2022. My reason for upgrading from 2020 was support for Oregon's LDPs that was added to 2021.?ÿ

Nevertheless, as I've recently commented in some other threads, Carlson/IntelliCAD 2022 is looking really impressive. For a survey only firm I'd be hard pressed to justify sticking with C3d given that you can outright buy copies of Carlson for less than the annual subscription fee for C3d.?ÿ

 
Posted : 13/01/2022 11:08 am
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Posted by: @norman-oklahoma

No 2022 just yet, but I have been using C3d 2021 and have noticed no serious bugs.

Hijack warning!

I think I found a bug in C3d 2021 this morning. I was drawing a polyline by point range and C3d was drawing the polyline in reverse order of the point range I was inputting.

PL
'PN
109,113-125

C3d was drawing?ÿ

109,125-113

I've tested it on multiple machines, multiple drawings, after a reboot and all get the same result. I used commas instead of the hyphen and it works. I've even input the numbers in the order that C3d was drawing them and it still draws them in that order (as it should).

This is not the "direction" of the line. That's corrected with PEDIT. C3d is literally drawing the polyline in an order other than what is being input by the user. I've got a helpdesk ticket in with our local contact. We'll see what they say.?ÿ

 
Posted : 13/01/2022 11:58 am
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Posted by: @tyler-brown

Has anyone made the jump to Civil 3d 2022? Our firm is currently running 2019 and we are deciding on whether it's worth while to upgrade.?ÿ

Based on experience, +/-20 years of CAD, the even years are not the ones to upgrade to...too buggy. Just my $0.02.

 
Posted : 13/01/2022 12:02 pm
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I'm a renegade. I'm always in favor of upgrading as soon as it's available. The longer you put it off, the more pronounced the differences will be. I've had no issues with 2021. I would at least go to that instead of 2019.

Having said that, if you collaborate with other firms who use C3D, it's better to try to stay on a similar release, or at least one that is compatible.

 
Posted : 13/01/2022 12:13 pm
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Posted by: @blitzkriegbob

Having said that, if you collaborate with other firms who use C3D, it's better to try to stay on a similar release, or at least one that is compatible.

Remember, you can always EXPORT to older versions. It's "better" than SAVEAS because it removes everything not used in the drawing and it removes the dynamic capabilities of blocks and such...basically it makes the drawing "dumb" so older versions can open it but yes, it's always good to stay present with what your clients are using.

 
Posted : 13/01/2022 12:18 pm
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@squirl?ÿ

Is it related to processing the line work by point number or import order?

Just wondering.

 
Posted : 13/01/2022 12:19 pm
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Looking at release notes, I remember now that the survey database format was updated for 2020. To use existing survey databases with 2020 and later, you would have to convert the database with their migrate utility.

Would not hurt to look at release notes for 2021 and 2022 to see if anything else may apply to you.

 
Posted : 13/01/2022 12:24 pm
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@squirl

Yes, I know you can export to earlier versions, but that should never be an option unless you're sharing with someone who isn't using C3D or is using an older version that isn't compatible.

 
Posted : 13/01/2022 12:26 pm
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@squirl?ÿ

I have verified that it does do that for me as well. I never draw lines by point numbers, but it's always good to know just so you're not caught by surprise.

Thanks!

 
Posted : 13/01/2022 12:33 pm
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Posted by: @jitterboogie

Is it related to processing the line work by point number or import order?

No imported line work, manually drawing a polyline by point range.

 
Posted : 13/01/2022 12:40 pm
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Posted by: @squirl

I think I found a bug in C3d 2021 this morning.

Interesting, but if that is as bad as it gets I think that we have a winner.

 
Posted : 13/01/2022 1:19 pm
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@squirl

Understood.

I'm wondering if having that box checked versus unchecked or selected for the SDB makes any difference.

If I had time I'd be trying to figure that out.

I'm busy trying not get lost in 1862 scrivening at the moment...

16421124956413692090953944994790

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Posted : 13/01/2022 2:22 pm
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@jitterboogie?ÿ

That looks pretty clear compared to lots of old handwriting.

 
Posted : 13/01/2022 2:34 pm
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@bill93?ÿ

Yes, it's the out of the scan edges I'm having issues with.

This is a good one.

Helped me with the not good one.

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THRAC OVER.

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Posted : 13/01/2022 2:39 pm
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Iƒ??ve found each version performs a little quicker and is a little easier to use than the previous year. So thereƒ??s no benefit to using a version for 2 or 3 or more years especially if Autodesk requires a subscription that gives you license access to the newest release?ÿ

 
Posted : 14/01/2022 7:31 pm