Parcel Mapcheck Report: C3d

Open up the reports tab on your toolspace and find the two toolbox icons at the top. One will give you access to the default settings for your reports - things like coordinate precision and the names for the header. The other one opens up the panorama dialog, with access to the settings for the reports.

According to what I see the report that you want to edit is a .NET format, so you need programming expertise to edit it. Maybe someone else on the board would be interested in taking a look at it.

Thanks Steve,

I am seeing the display you pointed me to.

It sure seems weird that some of the reports are xsl's (editable) and some are DLL's.

The reports that are created by DLL don't seem to be anymore complex than the others, so I can't figure out why they did it that way.

Thanks for your help,

Steve

In the earlier versions of the program all of the reports were in xsl only. When Autodesk added dot net support to the software they started using that language for newer reports.

I find the XSL stuff incredibly hard to parse. It's not so bad making simple changes, but trying to make any sort of complex change can be very difficult, because of the convoluted ties between all of the XSL/XML files.

The .NET stuff might be harder to get into, since you need to learn the basics of coding in .NET first. But once you know how to work with .NET, it's much easier to edit the source and make changes.

Autodesk gave us all the source for the .NET reports, as well as the XSL. Technically, it's located in the wrong place (at least according to Microsoft's Best Practices), but the .NET source can be found here:

C:ProgramDataAutodeskC3D 2011enuDataReportsNetSource

* Paging Wendell *

Do you ever program in dot net?

Might be another business opportunity here for you.....

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I've been doing .NET for years!!
I'm your huckleberry.
The languages in .NET aren't near as difficult to learn as the framework, namespaces, objects and various project types themselves. C# is my expertise but I can read about anything in the .net environment. I've done all kinds of things in the .net world. I've done some integrated speech recognition in a prototype app I missed around with once. Wrote a program that ran on the CE 600+ I had access to for keeping track of expenditures.
xsl/xml/xslt are all cousins in a way and I used them extensively in my ASP days which was the predecessor to the .NET framework. ASP had few tools to deal with these and if you had a "mal-formed" payload it was extremely difficult to debug and find the culprit. .NET has far superior tools at the ready. If you do a WPF (Windows Presentation Foundation) based application it's all different. The underlying stuff there is xaml (pronounced "zammil") and is a bit different but still recognizable to someone saavy in the "older stuff".

Look me up if you want. Of course I have no access to the stuff mentioned. My guess would be you see the aspx files and not the code behind.
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* Paging Wendell *

While I probably wouldn't intercept a work opportunity directed specifically at another person, I wouldn't be able to take the job. I'm not familiar with .NET, I'm already pretty swamped and I would have recommended you speak with Eric anyway. It seems he's very capable when it comes to .NET programming.

Thank you, however, for considering me. 🙂

* Paging Wendell *

My company (Quux Software) specializes in .NET development for Civil 3D. We primarily concentrate on our commercial Sincpac-C3D product, but we can also do custom development, for those with more specialized needs.

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ASP isn't directly related to .NET, and is not a .NET precursor. ASP is an internet server technology that Microsoft created and has integrated with .NET, but is not .NET itself. ASP responds to internet browser requests and serves pages in response. .NET is a framework of common support routines, encapsulating common functionality like basic data structures, along with access to the Windows operating system. The two technologies can work together, but they're separate things.

XML/XSL is also its own thing, and isn't part of ASP, although ASP can use XML/XSL. XML/XSL is more like a kin of HTML/CSS, although XML/XSL is more geared toward describing data and identifying what it is, while HTML/CSS focuses on displaying data. None of the XSL C3D reports involve ASP.

damm sinc

> ASP isn't directly related to .NET, and is not a .NET precursor. ASP is an internet server technology that Microsoft created and has integrated with .NET, but is not .NET itself. ASP responds to internet browser requests and serves pages in response. .NET is a framework of common support routines, encapsulating common functionality like basic data structures, along with access to the Windows operating system. The two technologies can work together, but they're separate things.
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> XML/XSL is also its own thing, and isn't part of ASP, although ASP can use XML/XSL. XML/XSL is more like a kin of HTML/CSS, although XML/XSL is more geared toward describing data and identifying what it is, while HTML/CSS focuses on displaying data. None of the XSL C3D reports involve ASP.

You think I don't know these things? I haven't been insulted this bad in years - many years. Maybe I didn't relate correctly. I was working with ASP on an NT 3.5 box in its beta days.

"XML/XSL is more like a kin of HTML/CSS"... I have no idea where you are coming from there. You might be referring to xslT which is applied to an XML payload and has absolutely zero to do with HTML and/or CSS. Of course you can throw some CSS styles to anything rendered on a page.

Perhaps your credentials preceed mine. I don't know. I was one of the original contributors/developers of the SOAP stuff. Were you? The xml/xsl stuff all came from that. That was circa '97 or 98 maybe.

As to C3D and that stuff I have no clue. I have no surveying or CAD software on this machine anymore. I was only speculating.

By the way, since I'm a wee insulted.... I was doing Windows programming in 2.1 and a development was most difficult to set up. I've been programming professionally since around 1981. Ok so I took a break or two and went surveying.

But.. getting over that if you're doing .net stuff. Hire me. You doing LINQ-2-SQL? That's all I do anymore. Have you found any use, or decent example, for a tuple?

Might have to move this thread to P & R

Gentlemen - please go compare the lengths of your keyboards somewhere else....

I started typing a proper response here - then decided that this thread wasn't worth it any more. I may follow up later, when I calm down.

damm sinc

No insult was intended. I was merely responding to some of your statements in your previous post... Saying ASP is a precursor to .NET is like saying GPS uses lasers to measure angles between satellites.

But to get to more relevant things...

We're not hiring at the moment, but that may be changing. Things have been growing nicely lately, as more and more people start using Civil 3D, and as more and more people are discovering the Sincpac-C3D. So hopefully, we'll be needing to hire help soon, and the sort of person we'd want would ideally have a mixture of Programming and Civil backgrounds. I'd say it's unlikely that we'd take on a new hire this year, more likely next year, but things could change. So it could be worth staying in touch.