Hello, new to the forum but not surveying. So here is our dilemma.
We use Spectra Ranger 3 data collectors and all of them run the v5.4 Survey Pro. When our crews run traverses and convert the file into .raw format we only get the foresight angle sets. The backsight angle sets seem to be missing. We are converting the files inside the datacollector to the .raw format.
Below is a sample of one setup of a raw file that I am working on.
Notice how we only see the "RF" lines of text. There should be another set of angles labeled "RB". What I used to do to get the points to show up in the .fbk files is change the RB and RF lines to SS.
My question is. Is anyone having the same issue? If you are were you able to fix it?
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OC,OP16,N 13686083.763000,E 2047749.270000,EL732.200000,--RIRCTV
BK,OP16,BP15,BS267.163286,BC0.0000
LS,HI5.100,HR5.200
--BS check 16 - 15:ZE88.5031,SD437.874,HD err= 0.046868, VD err= -0.070345
--BS Circle check : angular err= 0.0000
OB,OP16,FP15,AR0.000000,ZE88.503100,SD437.874000,--RIRCTV
--Check Point: Date: 2/25/15, Time: 11:51:30.000
--delta= N:0.002228 E:0.046816 Elev:0.070345
SS,OP16,FP13000,AR0.000100,ZE88.503100,SD437.871000,--CHK 15
--Target Generic Prism: "My Prism", HR:5.150 (5.150 + 0.000 Offset), Prism Const.:0.0mm
LS,HI5.100,HR5.150
RD,BD 1:0.000000
RD,FD 1:178.571400
RD,ZD 1:91.123400
MD,SD 1:579.901000
RF,OP16,FP150,AR178.571400,ZE91.123400,SD579.901000,HR5.150,--SIRCTV
RD,FV 1:358.571700
RD,ZV 1:268.475100
MD,SD 1:579.901000
RF,OP16,FP150,AR358.571700,ZE268.475100,SD579.901000,HR5.150,--SIRCTV
RD,BV 1:179.595800
RD,BD 2:0.000100
RD,FD 2:178.571400
RD,ZD 2:91.121800
MD,SD 2:579.900000
RF,OP16,FP150,AR178.571400,ZE91.121800,SD579.900000,HR5.150,--SIRCTV
RD,FV 2:358.571900
RD,ZV 2:268.475400
MD,SD 2:579.899000
RF,OP16,FP150,AR358.571900,ZE268.475400,SD579.899000,HR5.150,--SIRCTV
RD,BV 2:180.000100
SS,OP16,FP150,AR178.571600,ZE91.121675,SD579.900250,--SIRCTV
SS,OP16,FP13001,AR178.571100,ZE91.123400,SD579.902000,--CHK 150
--raw= HR:5.17 HA:0.0000 SD:579.91 ZA:88.4846
--Check By Distance: HA:0.0000 ZE:88.4846 SD:579.910
--Target Generic Prism: "My Prism", HR:5.170 (5.170 + 0.000 Offset), Prism Const.:0.0mm
TR,OP16,FP150,AR178.571600,ZE91.121675,SD579.900250,--SIRCTV
--Activating Total Station: Leica TPS Series, Bluetooth
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Thanks,
Damien
With a quick glance, the raw file looks like you just did a direct measure. Did you use a 'doubling' routine?
I've been running field genius and don't have to ask for (or convert to) a raw file. I'm creating one every time I start the program and run the gun.
Damien,
If memory serves, there is a setting in SurveyPro to record the observation to the backsight point when doing repetition shots.
If you look closely, you'll see your doubled angle to Point #150 is sort of in a "Backsight Sandwich" whereas the Datacollector recorded the first backsight direct, and then only after you were done did it record the final backsight reversed angle.
But of course no SlopeDistance because I bet that setting is turned off.
the TDS will still want to melt all these down to a single observation, it will take some doing to extract the F1/F2 observations.
Aren't these your direct and reverse angles?
OC,OP16,N 13686083.763000,E 2047749.270000,EL732.200000,--RIRCTV
BK,OP16,BP15,BS267.163286,BC0.0000
LS,HI5.100,HR5.200
--BS check 16 - 15:ZE88.5031,SD437.874,HD err= 0.046868, VD err= -0.070345
--BS Circle check : angular err= 0.0000
OB,OP16,FP15,AR0.000000,ZE88.503100,SD437.874000,--RIRCTV
--Check Point: Date: 2/25/15, Time: 11:51:30.000
--delta= N:0.002228 E:0.046816 Elev:0.070345
SS,OP16,FP13000,AR0.000100,ZE88.503100,SD437.871000,--CHK 15
--Target Generic Prism: "My Prism", HR:5.150 (5.150 + 0.000 Offset), Prism Const.:0.0mm
LS,HI5.100,HR5.150
RD,BD 1:0.000000
RD,FD 1:178.571400
RD,ZD 1:91.123400
MD,SD 1:579.901000
RF,OP16,FP150,AR178.571400,ZE91.123400,SD579.901000,HR5.150,--SIRCTV
RD,FV 1:358.571700
RD,ZV 1:268.475100
MD,SD 1:579.901000
RF,OP16,FP150,AR358.571700,ZE268.475100,SD579.901000,HR5.150,--SIRCTV
RD,BV 1:179.595800
RD,BD 2:0.000100
RD,FD 2:178.571400
RD,ZD 2:91.121800
MD,SD 2:579.900000
RF,OP16,FP150,AR178.571400,ZE91.121800,SD579.900000,HR5.150,--SIRCTV
RD,FV 2:358.571900
RD,ZV 2:268.475400
MD,SD 2:579.899000
RF,OP16,FP150,AR358.571900,ZE268.475400,SD579.899000,HR5.150,--SIRCTV
RD,BV 2:180.000100
SS,OP16,FP150,AR178.571600,ZE91.121675,SD579.900250,--SIRCTV
SS,OP16,FP13001,AR178.571100,ZE91.123400,SD579.902000,--CHK 150
--raw= HR:5.17 HA:0.0000 SD:579.91 ZA:88.4846
--Check By Distance: HA:0.0000 ZE:88.4846 SD:579.910
--Target Generic Prism: "My Prism", HR:5.170 (5.170 + 0.000 Offset), Prism Const.:0.0mm
TR,OP16,FP150,AR178.571600,ZE91.121675,SD579.900250,--SIRCTV
--Activating Total Station: Leica TPS Series, Bluetooth - See more at: http://beerleg.com/index.php?mode=thread&id=307552#sthash.Kc30aYvG.dpuf
I also thought that the text in blue were the backsight angles but they match the foresight measurements on the line that starts with "RF,"
Also notice that the back sight zenith angle is 88.503100, so id expect that the backsight angle sets would have that number, or close to it.
OC,OP16,N 13686083.763000,E 2047749.270000,EL732.200000,--RIRCTV
BK,OP16,BP15,BS267.163286,BC0.0000
LS,HI5.100,HR5.200
--BS check 16 - 15:ZE88.5031,SD437.874,HD err= 0.046868, VD err= -0.070345
--BS Circle check : angular err= 0.0000
OB,OP16,FP15,AR0.000000,ZE88.503100,SD437.874000,--RIRCTV
--Check Point: Date: 2/25/15, Time: 11:51:30.000
--delta= N:0.002228 E:0.046816 Elev:0.070345
SS,OP16,FP13000,AR0.000100,ZE88.503100,SD437.871000,--CHK 15
--Target Generic Prism: "My Prism", HR:5.150 (5.150 + 0.000 Offset), Prism Const.:0.0mm
LS,HI5.100,HR5.150
RD,BD 1:0.000000
RD,FD 1:178.571400
RD,ZD 1:91.123400
MD,SD 1:579.901000
RF,OP16,FP150,AR178.571400,ZE91.123400,SD579.901000,HR5.150,--SIRCTV
OK, I figured it out. It was kind of like an angle sandwich but it was more along the lines of loading up back sight angles into a shotgun and shooting them into a raw file. We've had this problem ever since we switched from the TDS Rangers to the Spectra Ranger 3's. And with 15 crews to keep track of, making sure that all their settings are the same is quite a challenge. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
RD,BD 1:0.000000
RD,FD 1:178.571400
RD,ZD 1:91.123400
MD,SD 1:579.901000
RF,OP16,FP150,AR178.571400,ZE91.123400,SD579.901000,HR5.150,--SIRCTV
RD,FV 1:358.571700
RD,ZV 1:268.475100
MD,SD 1:579.901000
RD,BV 1:179.595800
RF,OP16,FP150,AR358.571700,ZE268.475100,SD579.901000,HR5.150,--SIRCTV
RD,BD 2:0.000100
RD,FD 2:178.571400
RD,ZD 2:91.121800
MD,SD 2:579.900000
RF,OP16,FP150,AR178.571400,ZE91.121800,SD579.900000,HR5.150,--SIRCTV
RD,FV 2:358.571900
RD,ZV 2:268.475400
MD,SD 2:579.899000
RD,BV 2:180.000100
RF,OP16,FP150,AR358.571900,ZE268.475400,SD579.899000,HR5.150,--SIRCTV
