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@ncsudirtman?ÿ

I agree, however you can overclock if yer a pyrotechnic nut, or just add these for speed on the cheap. ?????ÿ

https://www.amazon.com/Tech-Predator-PC4-21300-Non-ECC-Unbuffered/dp/B0829C7N7F/ref=sr_1_3?crid=EGYCQGOM4O6F&keywords=acer+helios+ram+upgrade&qid=1657554303&s=electronics&sprefix=acer+helios+ram+upgrade%2Celectronics%2C109&sr=1-3


 
Posted : July 11, 2022 9:56 am
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Posted by: @ncsudirtman

their base clock speeds don't seem as high as the C3D recommendations so it's more wear on the processors.

What do you mean "wear" ??ÿ It'll take a bit longer but the hardware doesn't wear out any faster.


 
Posted : July 11, 2022 10:17 am
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https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/civil-3d/learn-explore/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-Autodesk-Civil-3D-2022.html

Note that Autodesk does not specify any particular number of processor, just one that operates at 3.0 Ghz or better.?ÿ


 
Posted : July 11, 2022 10:48 am
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Posted by: @norman-oklahoma

Note that Autodesk does not specify any particular number of processor, just one that operates at 3.0 Ghz or better.

This is a good point, and has come up in a number of threads over the years. C3D does employ multiple cores, but only for a handful of operations. The vast majority of C3D (really AutoCAD) functions are single-core only.

For C3D-only, upgrading memory and GPU will get you more bang for your buck as opposed to adding more cores. I like having 6 cores, but less for C3D than for baseline processing, and point cloud and model rendering in other software packages.


 
Posted : July 11, 2022 11:12 am
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@bill93

So it has always been explained to me by others in IT that if the processor operates at a base clock speed of say 2.5 ghz but the program wants 3.0 consistently (like norman pointed out) and the processor has the ability to move at faster speeds to accommodate the need that it would eventually produce more wear & tear on said processor than operating it at a lower rate all of it's life. granted I won't pretend to fully understand this stuff but I that's how it has always been explained to me - similar to say an engine just idling vs running it at a much higher RPM in order to obtain the power necessary for the task. if I am wrong in my understanding I do apologize!


 
Posted : July 11, 2022 12:01 pm

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@ncsudirtman?ÿ

I have a Dell Low level gamer, not the Alienware, you were singing my song for sure.

^5


 
Posted : July 11, 2022 12:23 pm
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Another analogy:

Hard drive space

Chip speed?ÿ

Can both be huge.

Think giant pile and big motor.

Ram allows you to go through the files fasterr like fingers through the file tabs in a filing cabinet

Or opens the air up for the motor and let's it run with more air and horsepower

Small ram slows the faster chips, large ram allows you to approach the bus speed.

This I learned at the biggest computer company in the world at the time.

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Posted : July 11, 2022 12:41 pm
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Goodness Gracious Y'all have given me so much to learn now. Thank you all very much. My small brain is in overload. I will have to take small bites to get all this digested, But I am sure if I can get some understanding of all of this computer speak I can make a well informed decision. Man it is so different reading this stuff from work computer versus on my i-phone. It is a whole other world.

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Thank You all very much...


 
Posted : July 11, 2022 1:11 pm
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@jitterboogie It shouldn't need to be said but just in case make sure any computer you buy is a 64 bit machine none of the new software is compatible With 32 bit computers?ÿ

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Posted : July 12, 2022 12:40 am
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This from Carlson, specific to their IntelliCAD "stand alone" product. Note especially their comments about graphics cards. I've heard similar things elsewhere, that the graphics card hardware is pretty equal between the various models and brands but the driver support is where the rubber meets the road.?ÿ?ÿ


 
Posted : July 12, 2022 10:48 am

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@mark-mayer I just got a similar set up in a Dell G15 Ryzen edition gaming computer with similar specs and I love it!


 
Posted : July 12, 2022 1:24 pm
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Posted by: @chris-bouffard

I just got a similar set up in a Dell G15 Ryzen edition gaming computer with similar specs

The thing with AMD processors (and gaming systems) is that, while the hardware part works (more than) just fine, the interoperability with the various other components that make it a computer may not be as rock solid as with Intel parts. And the driver support may not be all you could ask for. Drivers may work well with games but not with CAD. It works fine today, how will it be in 5 years after you install the 2028 edition of C3d and Windows 12.1? If you are the kind of guy that likes to fiddle with such things you can build and maintain really good AMD based systems and save money. But if you just want a trouble free experience it is usually safer to stay with Intel.?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ


 
Posted : July 12, 2022 5:29 pm
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