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GEORGIASURVEYOR
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So, I did a reformat on the home PC the other week and have been playing with Linux. Found out that Bricsys is not beta testing their Bricscad for Linux. Very cool. So how possible is it to actually run your system on Linux now. I know there is open office for Data Processing, Word docs, etc. But what about surveying software? Also, does anyone know how to bring an ASCII file into acad/intellicad without having specific software for it (I have used LDD through its lifecycle and am now using Microstation with bells and whistles). I would imagine that a script for acad would work in this, but am unsure.

Anywho, I am gonna play around with the Bricscad for the demo period (30 days) and see if it is viable. Anyone got a spare Ascii file they are not using?

Matt

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Posted : July 10, 2010 9:47 am
plumb-bill
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Dont' forget about Google Docs, Picasa, etc.

You can run Windows programs on Linux, but I've never done it and am not sure how it would affect speed/stability.

 
Posted : July 10, 2010 10:09 am
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Last time I checked, there were some people running AutoCad r14 in Ubuntu using WINE. That was a few years ago, so one would think they've moved up to a newer version of AutoCad.

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Posted : July 10, 2010 10:20 am
GEORGIASURVEYOR
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The old autocads work with Wine, but not the newer ones. Since about 2009 they have all come up as garbage on the wine page. 2006 was the last that showed with ubuntu as a Gold. Somehow I doubt that AutoDesk would want to sell me a 2006 copy of LDD.

I know Microstation used to work with Linux. Does anyone know why they quit supporting Linux?

 
Posted : July 10, 2010 10:57 am
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> Also, does anyone know how to bring an ASCII file into acad/intellicad without having specific software for it ...

Explain what you mean by "bring an ASCII file into acad/intellicad.

Peter Lazio

 
Posted : July 10, 2010 2:20 pm

GEORGIASURVEYOR
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What I mean, Peter, is in LDD, you can import points from a PNEZD comma delimited file with an extention of "ASC" or "CSV" or "TXT". Well, looking at the Briscad, I have yet to find how to bring them in. But I know that Mr. Small has used Vanilla AutoCAD and brought in ASC files through a lsp. But without such a lsp, I am unsure of how to do it other than manually creating each individual node at each individual coordinate then adding text manually telling what point # and what description is said point.

 
Posted : July 10, 2010 2:36 pm
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Do some investigation of AutoCAD scripting. Scripting as you are probably aware is file of AutoCAD commands that are executed as if you were typing them in yourself. By adding some plain vanilla AutoCAD commands to the ASCII file of point coordinates I am sure you can create AutoCAD points in your drawing. It will take some trial and error but once you get the command sequence down you can use a good text editor to paste the commands in along with the point coordinates to simplify the process.

Be aware they will be plain vanilla AutoCAD points, lacking the intellegence of LDD AECC_Points.

Peter Lazio

 
Posted : July 10, 2010 2:57 pm
GEORGIASURVEYOR
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Right, but I am not entirely sure how that will translate into intellicad and Linux. So That is why I am trying to find some predone. Most ACAD commands work in Intellicad. But not all Windows commands translate the same into linux. So, if I find some premade, I then do not have to entirely write it myself.

 
Posted : July 10, 2010 4:48 pm
plumb-bill
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Won't Intellicad run in Linux? Microsurvey and the new Carlson are both based on Intellicad.

I know this doesn't mean much, as far as it running in Linux goes, but Carlson really just ran "on top of" the old Autocad. I know there was an actual program side of it that was Windoze based, but this could mean that there would be less code to port.

p.s. For what it's worth I think computer-based software's days are numbered. It won't be too long before everything is cloud based (think Google Docs). CAD developers won't embrace it initially, but will then jump in whole hog when the business model reveals how much more money is to be made by having a stranglehold on the client's data.

 
Posted : July 10, 2010 4:55 pm
GEORGIASURVEYOR
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Adam,

Intellicad for the most part says under system requirements Windoze. Bricscad is the first that I have found so far that is intellicad that does not require wine (the emulator not the drink).

I may play with the type commands inside of intellicad and see if I can figure out if the acad commands are close enough to allow an acad lsp to import coords or not this evening. It is a 30 day trial, so it will give me something to do. 🙂

 
Posted : July 10, 2010 5:48 pm

plumb-bill
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Briscad, that's what I meant, just forgot the name.

Please keep us posted on what you figure out.

 
Posted : July 10, 2010 6:07 pm
peter-ehlert
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Thanks for the tip on Bricscad ( http://www.bricsys.com)
I use Ubuntu almost exclusively, and only boot to W7 for acad and to sync with my blackberry.
They do have a Ubuntu version that I am downloading now. Looks like I will have to find and install some sort of DEB helper/installer.
I did use V14 under wine but got a little frustrated, I have high hopes.

Much of the world can not afford the modern acad packages and windows. Linux in it's multitude of flavors is becoming quite common here.

 
Posted : July 13, 2010 1:43 pm