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I was given an hp 450c and I've been trying to get it up and running. I've gone through the self checks in the manual and everything seems to work, but I haven't been able to make it perform a test print. I haven't even tried to connect it to a computer yet, I would like to see the machine itself work and then try to connect it. Any ideas would be appreciated.


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 12:34 pm
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I have one.

First off, check the bent to see if it is dry rotted or cracked. Any threads at all, and you will issues. THe clear tape should be in good shape too.

The #1 problem with them is the carts dry up and become unusable (even new on shelf) It will probably run your $40ea x 4 to load new ones to check it out.

Old tech. And I could not get mine to connect to Win7 if that applies to you.


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 12:48 pm
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Thanks for the reply. I checked the belt and it seems pretty good. I replaced the black cartridge and the self test on the machine is telling me the others are ok. I found a link to a driver that says it will work with Windows 7, but I haven't gotten that far yet, so I don't know if it works. I'll post the link if you're interested.


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 12:58 pm
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Did you try to do a demo plot by pressing the Setup & Cancel buttons at the same time? As far as drivers for Windows 7, I did a search about 6 months ago and the only thing I could find was WinLine Drivers for $199. A little pricy, but does work with Windows 7 to get the 450C to communicate. You can download a trial version before buying to make sure it will work.

I now have two HP 450C's and have them both up and running on all my computers, Win 3.11. DOS, Win98SE, Win XP, & Win 7.

The cartriges are a critical issue in getting it going. If you have anymore questions, let me know.


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 2:43 pm
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> Thanks for the reply. I checked the belt and it seems pretty good. I replaced the black cartridge and the self test on the machine is telling me the others are ok. I found a link to a driver that says it will work with Windows 7, but I haven't gotten that far yet, so I don't know if it works. I'll post the link if you're interested.

By all means please do post the link. My office is a mess (more than usual right now) because I have been trying to get my HP 430 to connect with a Win 7 64-bit machine. So far, no luck. What I did manage to do was get the 430 installed in an older machine in the office and sort of working as a networked printer. I say sort of because I can't get the network driver to recognize the sizes of paper most commonly used by us surveyors.

Larry P


 
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Larry:

That is what is nice about WinLine Drivers, you can do all your paper setups with it and there are so many plotter drivers, that you wouldn't be able to use them all.


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 2:59 pm
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> Larry:
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> That is what is nice about WinLine Drivers, you can do all your paper setups with it and there are so many plotter drivers, that you wouldn't be able to use them all.

Thanks for that info Charles. I had seen those drivers earlier but was going to hold back until hearing from someone else whether or not they actually worked.

Went to their website and found the driver I need. Just one problem. Can't seen to find a price. Roughly what did you pay?

Larry P


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 3:07 pm
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Larry:

As I said above, it was $199, and you can download a demo version to try out to make sure they work. It will plot a demo plot with a watermark type statement on the face. If you decide to purchase, they will give you a key to unlock to a legitimate copy. This is the only drivers that I could find for Windows 7 when I searched the Internet last November. My Windows 7 computer is a 32 bit system, but I think that a 64 bit is also included.

Here is the link that I used: www.shareit.com


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 3:32 pm
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I've tried to perform the demo plot routine but when I press the setup and cancel buttons at the same time I get no response at all.

This is the link to the driver I found. As I said, I haven't tried it, so I don't know if it works, but I hope so.

http://litespc.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/windows-7-64-bit-driver-for-hp-designjet-450c/


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 3:49 pm
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How long did you leave it set when trying to do the demo plot? It does take a little time for it to get all done and do the plot.


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 3:56 pm

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I waited a few minutes, but it's possible I didn't wait long enough. I'll try again.


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 3:59 pm
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It worked! I just printed the test sheet and it looks good. Apparently I just wasn't patient enough. Now I'll move on to trying to get it connected to the computer.

Thanks for the help!


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 4:09 pm
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Good!! How are you going to hook it up, parallel to centronics, serial or USB. Mine work best using the parallel cable. Serial is too slow and never could get the USB to Centronics to work. Will try again one of the days to see if I can solve that problem.


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 4:19 pm
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Larry,

I have my HP DesignJet 430 working with my Windows 7 Professional(64bit) computer.

The plotter is connected to my computer using a Belkin parallel to USB cable. My printer driver is "HP DesighJet Printer Driver v4.83" I selected "HP DesignJet 430 (E/A0) by HP" as the printer, even though it is only a D size plotter.

I hope this helps. My email is in my profile if you need any other information or even screen shots of my printer settings.


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 4:33 pm
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I bought a parallel to usb cable. I'm going to give that a try first.


 
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Thanks, for the info, Dan. I may need it.


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 4:40 pm
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very timely,
I actually today installed the driver refered to at this link that I found months ago (also some good tips) but havn't had the chance to check it out as my cable isn't long enough, ha ha
http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Printers-Designjet-Large-Format/HP-DesignJet-450C-Windows-7-x64-Driver/td-p/5406627
Jim

Edit,
Scroll down through the above posts till you find this one and follow his instructions

Re: HP DesignJet 450C - Windows 7 x64 Driver.Options
Mark as NewBookmarkSubscribeSubscribe to RSS FeedHighlightPrintEmail to a FriendReport Inappropriate Content....12-01-2011 07:34 AM

For 64 bit systems you can download the XP x64 drivers from here, then unzip the files into a new folder. Next go to the Devices and Printers folder, Add a Printer, select the proper port, then select "Have a Disk" and point to the folder where you unzipped the files.

The other likely issue is finding a proper communication. Most Windows 7 machines do not have a parallel port. USB-parallel converters can be used but many do not work in Windows 7. The models here have been reported by users to work in Windows 7. Another option might be to get a Jetdirect box and install the printe ron a network.

.{-- If this helped click the Kudos star.

Bob Headrick, Microsoft MVP Printing/Imaging
.....


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 5:06 pm
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> havn't had the chance to check it out as my cable isn't long enough, ha ha

You know Jim, most guys won't admit something like that in public. Just sayin'

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Posted : July 2, 2012 5:14 pm
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> Larry:
>
> As I said above, it was $199, and you can download a demo version to try out to make sure they work. It will plot a demo plot with a watermark type statement on the face. If you decide to purchase, they will give you a key to unlock to a legitimate copy. This is the only drivers that I could find for Windows 7 when I searched the Internet last November. My Windows 7 computer is a 32 bit system, but I think that a 64 bit is also included.
>
> Here is the link that I used: www.shareit.com

Duh, I see it now. Looks like I need to work on my reading skills.

Thanks for the info Charles.

Larry P


 
Posted : July 2, 2012 5:16 pm
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If it is a desktop, you should be able to buy an inexpensive parallel port card. I just checked and the ones I saw on ebay say they work on Windows7. Don't know whether they have separate drivers or use built-in drivers of Win7.

I have my HP450c set up in a separate room (actually up stairs, bummer) and it runs networked through a wireless network to parallel port centronics device. It's a Trendnet TEW-P1PG, discontinued but should be available perhaps on ebay. They also have a wired network version, TE100-P1P.

Oops, looks like you may have trouble finding the TEW-P1PG. Most places are out. I see one for about $450 though, if you want to pay about 4x-5x the going price. :-O


 
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