How to add points to the "Control File" in SurvCE?

I have three carlson Surveyor Plus which we use with our GPS and Robot on
industrial concrete and Bolts. Ten hours a day 5 days a week so to say a lot

The best way is to text out from you working job the points to a file say Moveover.txt
and then import this text file to your control file

You have to be in your job file to export the points BUT to import you have to just set the target file to your control file say SITECONTROL.CRD

USE 1 tru 500 as control points

Your working file use

1000 above

2000 above

3000 above

Etc.
When using a robot with control points 1-100
and your job file contains 1-100
the Occupied control points will over rite the job points with no warning

so make sure your control points are 1-500

and all topo as built etc are 1000+

Peter K

> The best way is to text out from you working job the points to a file say Moveover.txt
> and then import this text file to your control file
>
> You have to be in your job file to export the points BUT to import you have to just set the target file to your control file say SITECONTROL.CRD
>
>
> Peter K

Thanks, Peter. I can export in TXT format fine. But when I try to import it, I can't find the target file. Is it a separate .CRD than the job file? Stored in a different place? I manually populated one point in the file in case it needed one just to exist.

Where is the thing?

1

2 Select Import you can be in any job...
But to export points you have in that job (just a reminder)

3 Select the point text file you want to import Top Right

4 Next select text junk.txt then green Check

5 Take a look at the Point(s) just one in this case

6.
Select control.crd file and then open control file to edit point
number to 165 to stop control points over writing topo layout or as built points.

To save a step if you are in a topo file save that control point as 165 and then you will not have to leave topo file to control file to edit point to 1165 to 165
Then delete temporary 165 in your topo job if like probably a good idea.

Or launch a text editor to change the point number from 1165 to 165.

This creation of control points while one is in a working topo asbuilt-layout job and moving that point to the control file is a pain mostly due to robots for if you go to your control
file and the robot is not on your last occupation in the control file you have to occupy
HI HR backsight So So On

So take control shot in your working job, renumber, export, import to control, delete temp renumbered control point or renumber in control.

You can edit control file from your current job to save on renumbering point in your current
job so in your current job.
S3 is point 1165 leave as is
S3 in control is point 165 from 1165

The work flow in this case would be
In Current job
Take new control point shot
Export point TXT
Import point into control TXT
Edit Control point # from 1165 to 165 in points menu.
i would think this would be the best solution

Keep on working.

I would say it would it would take about <30 seconds to do i timed it.

Peter K

In carlson ce you can use a Seperate job inside another job . So if your control for a job is in say control.crd and you are working in job1.crd you can set in the job settings to select control.crd as a control file . Meaning it will see the points in the current file and be able to use them.

Oops to answer the question

The Control.CRD is like any file/job you have to create it like any job

I would make a Control folder like
this

C:All SitesUptownControl South Side.CRD
DowntownControl Other Side tracks.CRD
Out of Town Control Rather Be At Home.CRD

These *.CRD may or may not contain points at first and are just there to put control points into
to be used by TOPO,Asbuilt,layout.CRD done in the various territory's listed above
even thou you can do a topo while in a control file why would you.

It is best to divide conquer

Ie

Boiler Design Bolts.crd
Boiler As Built Bolts.crd
Boiler Design Concrete.Crd
Boiler As Built Concrete.CRD what a bore as Building concrete plus the Cad side
Boiler Design DTM Subgrade.Crd
Boiler As Built DTM Subgrade.Crd
Boiler Design Storm.Crd
Boiler As Built Storm.Crd
Boiler Design Oily Pipes.Crd
Etc....

Control

MGE Control.Crd contains the control points that may be created while setting main control
in the control file. But latter the control point(s) may be created in any of the boiler files and then moved to MGE Control.crd most likely

Peter K

Yes you can toggle on use control file to use control points in your current layout job.

The question was i think how does one move a point from your current job into
the control file to be used by the other jobs.

There is no cut points from current.crd and paste to Control.crd i know of

Control file is called that for what it is used for, and i hardly ever put design points
in it.

Control.Crd points 1 -999

Design points.crd 2000-2140
As Built Points.crd 2000-2140 and plus as built 3000-above as required depending on how motivated the carpenters are.

Peter K

> The question was i think how does one move a point from your current job into
> the control file to be used by the other jobs.
>

> Peter K

This all will keep me busy for a while. Thanks!
The single thing that tripped me up was not choosing file type "user defined"!

This place truly amazes me. Such a resource.:-)

> In carlson ce you can use a Seperate job inside another job . So if your control for a job is in say control.crd and you are working in job1.crd you can set in the job settings to select control.crd as a control file . Meaning it will see the points in the current file and be able to use them.

That's good to know. In effect, if a "control file" is just another .crd, I can set out to establish control points in a job all at once...save them all. Then open a new job; say topo or whatever, and choose the previously created control job within the new topo job.