The kack of lisp is due to what AutoCAD will release or not. Carlson's hands are tied on that issue. However, I used 6 lisp routines in LDD and all but one of them were in CarlsonSurvey, so I lost nothing really. Carlson does things differently. Most things you have lisp routines for are in Carlson but called something differentI really do not see this shortcomming as an issue for the average user.
If you are like the guys over at The Swamp that write LISP routines for everything, even what is already built in, then this will be an issue for you.
> I a bunch of construction staking in my business and use Carlson survey to do it all . I even build 3D models for Graders with out any problems .
Can you show me a pipe profile with crossings you've done with 2011 or 2012?
I know I called it in to Carlson and they had no answer.
Ralph
I've been using Carlson for 10 years +, office and field. I've mostly used the stand alone survey with embedded acad. I bought the civil suite 2009 hoping that Intellicad would fill the bill, but haven't used it for production, and have upgraded each release, currently 2013. I'm still using Carlson Survey 2009 with embedded Acad to work with. The Icad continues to improve, but it's still too buggy for me. I'm going to switch over to the Civil Suite around the 1st of the year. If Icad is still not productive enough for me, I'm going to bite the bullet and buy either Autocad or Map.
As far as Carlson goes, I'm extremely happy with them. I can't imagine using anything else. I'm not comfortable enough with Icad to use it for production. Yet...
Maybe they will get the bugs worked out. I've been waiting for about 3 years. The Civil module in the Suite has some features that I need, such as roadwork, profiles, etc., and the GIS and Hydrology modules, also, but I could get by without them. I figured with the Civil Suite I can do anything that I need to. Hopefully they will get the Icad issue sailing smooth soon.
If you can wait until the end of the year, they usually have a sale. That's when I bought mine. You should demo the latest version and see how it works for you. A lot of people are using the Intellicad for work. That's probably what I will do, also. It's hard for a solo operator to budget Autocad. I do like Autocad, I just don't want to feed that critter.
No have not done that. . Not my job to discover the pipe crossings. engineer should work those out before . But that'nwould be a nice addition to what we already provide on the job site.
> No have not done that. . Not my job to discover the pipe crossings. engineer should work those out before . But that'nwould be a nice addition to what we already provide on the job site.
That's what I thought. That is part of the scope of my work and yes "That is Surveying".
The reason I bought it up in the first place is because there is a pull down menu in Carlson Survey which has all these options, unfortunately they didn't work properly.
Otherwise it is a pretty program which goes above and beyond what most Boundary Surveyors would need, but if your specialty is a little more Geospatially oriented, you might need some more ammo.
Ralph
I am always getting asked if this is going to hit this pipe and I work it out by hand . Did not know Carlson had a routine for this . What's it's called . And I assume your talking about how the new utilities will impact each other as installed.
> I am always getting asked if this is going to hit this pipe and I work it out by hand . Did not know Carlson had a routine for this . What's it's called . And I assume your talking about how the new utilities will impact each other as installed.
I think you and I look at things differently and are probably Worlds apart. I'm okay with that.
You can go on my Facebook page and see what kind of work I do and why this is important to me.
Cheers
Ralph