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(@roadburner)
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Anyone get this thing to work? I entered point numbers for the 4 section corners for a made-up Section 27, Township 1, Range 40, and it says it doesn't have enough info to do it. I must be missing something...

 
Posted : August 30, 2012 3:35 pm
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The quarter corners?

Has the program progressed enough to ask whether or not you are retracing/resurveying, or does it only assume it is the original subdivsion of the section? :-O

 
Posted : August 30, 2012 7:54 pm
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Brain,

What the heck do the quarter corners have to do with subdividing sections?

Or, gee whiz, what about any other corners that may also be out there and monumented?

What's a programmer to do wthi all that stuff?

It ain't easy to write mathematical programs for all those procedures in the Manual.

It is just a cook book, ya know.

Too bad there will be surveyors that believe all this!

😉

 
Posted : August 30, 2012 8:45 pm
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If I read the original message correctly, you keyed in the four corners of the box. This defines your area of subdivision. The program probably requires the parameters inside the box. How many polygons do you want to create? Or maybe there are some default settings that can be applied.

 
Posted : August 31, 2012 5:41 am
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My test attempt was to provide the four section corners and assume the 1/4 corners are lost. It asks me what section number it is, and if it's a closing section it asks for record chainages. I chose a standard section 27, and the prompt boxes for chainages disappeared. That tells me it was going to set the 1/4 corners at the midpoints. In theory, it should be able to use the four exterior corners and break out the 4 quarter sections. I was just curious how this new command would work, not that I would necessarily use it. I like the new geodetic functions that break a line into two parts with the same geodetic bearing. Makes it easy to follow the arc of latitude when re-establishing a lost 1/4 corner or center of section (barring any other evidence).

 
Posted : August 31, 2012 7:12 am
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Well, I tried adding the 4 quarter corners of my make-believe section 27. It asked me what point number I want to use for whatever point it had calc'd, then did that again 6 more times. So it calc'd 7 unknown points. Then it said "Not enough data to calculate any unknown points". I give up.

Edit: I see that the points were actually added to the crd file, so I'm not sure why it gave me that error message. Just like I thought, the function doesn't follow the manual (line of constant bearing topic).

 
Posted : August 31, 2012 7:33 am
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> Then it said "Not enough data to calculate any unknown points". I give up.
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> Edit: I see that the points were actually added to the crd file, so I'm not sure why it gave me that error message. Just like I thought, the function doesn't follow the manual (line of constant bearing topic).

I witnessed that same behavior this morning and have dispatched information as such into the Carlson Software programming team along with several usability enhancement requests for the routine.

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Posted : August 31, 2012 9:24 am