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Carlson 2008 Multiple CRD files

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(@jimmy-cleveland)
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I am working on a project, and the drawing has been acting funny. I have had multiple points, and until the other day, I have not been able to create a point plot. The plot would be blank.

I finally figured out that the base drawing provided by the engineer was created in Civil3D, and a buddy of mine was kind enough to export the drawing, and now I can create point plots.

The multiple points have been coming in with the circle for the point symbol in the correct location, and the center node coming in several thousand feet to the southeast.

This morning, I listed three points to take to the field with me to hand enter into the data collector, and discovered that there are two values for each point. When I export the points, the point with the description is the one that exports, and is in the correct location.

I cannot figure out why the drawing seems to be referencing multiple CRD files.

As a little background, it was very difficult to get the line work in this drawing over to the coordinate values ID's from the point file provided by the engineer. There seems to have been some sort of translation at some point way before I received the drawing. I have never had a drawing give me issues like this before.

Any advice is greatly, greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Jimmy

 
Posted : September 17, 2014 6:13 am
(@davidgstoll)
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Jimmy,

Things are a lot easier when you have control of everything from the data collector to the final drawing. As you said, somewhere along the way a translation "happened".

I have no advice, only sympathy.

Dave

 
Posted : September 17, 2014 6:48 am
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Insert the drawing, into a fresh one of your own. Then, "Create pts from Cad file".

See if you get it right.

N

 
Posted : September 17, 2014 7:33 am
(@nate-the-surveyor)
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O, and turn on all layers, and see if there are not a few errant points, that did not get translated, by the previous file maker. Do a view extents.

N

 
Posted : September 17, 2014 7:35 am
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I don't know if this will help, but I typically just create (draw locate points) my own points in my own CRD file by SNAPPING to NODE or INSERT or INTERSECTION or whatever, rather than letting the software try to automatically create points from someone else's alien drawing files.

 
Posted : September 17, 2014 1:56 pm
(@jimmy-cleveland)
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Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately, I have tried all of these already.

This is one crazy drawing.

Today, I went to stake some of the points I had calculated, and got forward/back 18,000 and left/right 17,000, so it is picking up some of the erroneous points.

Going to have to spend some time this weekend monkeying around with it to try and figure it out. I have about a week or so before I have to go back to that job, so hopefully I can figure it out before I have to do some heavy duty staking that is coming up.

Thanks again for the suggestions, please keep them coming!

 
Posted : September 17, 2014 4:24 pm
(@stephen-ward)
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I'm running 2013, but send me a copy and I'll take a look at it.

 
Posted : September 17, 2014 5:00 pm
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Did you check to make sure your ucs was right and not on some rotation?

 
Posted : September 19, 2014 7:03 am
(@jimmy-cleveland)
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I did not, but Stephen mentioned it in a phone call. He found the UCS icon in the lower left appeared slightly twisted.

I plan on spending some time on the drawing this weekend to try the suggestions.

Thanks for the suggestion. I have never ran into a drawing where the UCS was altered.

Thanks, and have a great weekend.

 
Posted : September 19, 2014 7:26 am
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One of the first things I do when I get a drawing from someone else is to check the UCS. In AutoCAD it is just "UCS" then enter twice to set it to world.

 
Posted : September 19, 2014 8:20 am