These last few weeks I've had the honor (?!) of occupying some desk space at a client's office working on a rather large RW project.
The computer that's available has C3d 2012 installed on it. All the techs in the office are using their 'fav' older versions and have been shy of using the newer versions..hence none of them have much input.
Anyway..one of the guys made me a dwg to import (i.e. settings) so my cogo points would look like I like them..you know pt.#, node, desc. and elev. I've been happy with that.
Today I was manually creating points along some r/w. There are almost 6000 points in the dwg, but all of those have been imported with text files. My manual points began at point 1. I could get 9 points in the dwg that 'looked' normal. From point 10 and on no text would show up next to the node, just the node symbol.
Nobody in the office has any answers. We've tried tweaking the 'point group' settings and reimporting the 'seed' settings. Nothing works. The points are there in the data base with their PNEZD and can be editted or exported just fine..they just don't show on the screen. Any suggestions anyone?
You know, a cogo pt can have a pt label style assigned to it either thru a pt group, or individually.
If the pts are not responding to changes in its pt group settings (be mindful of the pt group hierarchy), try clicking on the cogo pt and viewing it's Properties. Perhaps it has individual pt style settings, instead of default.
Steve,
Both the points that show the data and don't show the data have identical properties.
Mike,
We got into the sequencing and they're all set the same.
Don't know. I'm here and the dwg is up at the office. Will mess with it in the AM.
thnx guys.
Just an idea. Can you get the coordinate values after you create them? Or Maybe export them to a text file? Making a text list and importing them might work. I know it would be time consuming. I'm not a GIS guy, so just throwing out (probably bad) idea. lol. Gl hope you solve your problem.
I would bet that you have a point group in there somewhere which is set to include points numbered >9, and which has a display override turned on. If this is the case then the point group will control what those points look like instead of their individual settings.
I will be able to look at the file tomorrow if you can email it to me.
Point group manager, Right click menu, update, then apply description keys?
There is no Point Group Manager in C3D, that was an LDD thing.
I suspect that the core cause is something related to Point Groups and/or the way the points were imported, but with the info given so far, I can' say what. Posting a sample DWG that illustrates the problem would eliminate the game of "20-Questions", which is where we're at now.
I should also qualify that by assuming that you understand how Point Styles and Point Label Styles work in C3D... This sounds a lot like you used one of the default C3D templates to create your DWG, and for some inexplicable reason, Autodesk has defined their OOTB templates with initial settings that show nothing for Cogo Point labels, unless you fix it manually yourself.
But when you get into C3D, there are SO MANY different possible settings that it's very hard to diagnose problems without a sample DWG.
It sounds like a point settings issue.
Look at your Point Groups under Prospector.
Each Point Group that has a mark next to it is being used.
Each has its own settings.
This is the most common problem with point plots.
As has been stated, C3D has settings upon settings and they can be truly frustrating to deal with and get correct for your use.
Sorry... Meant prospector... Not point group manager
Another thing to keep in mind is that, if you are using the standard C3D commands, the Default Styles selected in the "Point Creation Tools" dialog will NOT be honored if you have "Disable Description Keys" set to "False". When you do this, the tools will attempt to grab the Styles from a Description Key set, and if they fail, they'll apply no Styles at all to the Cogo Points. (This is a bug in C3D, in my mind.)
As a result, what you usually get is that your Cogo Points get no Style assigned at all, and therefore take on the settings from the "_All Points" point group. And by default, this Point Group is set to display a marker only, with no label (again, another error by Autodesk, in my opinion).
The standard rule of thumb for C3D Cogo Points is a hierarchical list... This is how the display is determined:
1. If the Cogo Point is in a Point Group, and the "Overrides" switch is enabled in the Point Group Properties, then the Point Group setting is used. Otherwise...
2. If the Cogo Point has a Style set directly on it, then that setting is used. Otherwise...
3. The settings in the Point Group are used.
In the above list, when I say "Point Group", I mean the highest-priority group that the point is in. In C3D, any one Cogo Point can be in any number of Point Groups. You can control the hierarchy of Point Groups (via Prospector->Point Groups->Properties).
In addition to that, you can also set a number of things in the Styles themselves, but I suspect the above stuff is more-relevant to your current problem.