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OK, I have heard that this would be difficult, if not impossible, but I though I would throw this out there to see if anyone has a solution.

I have a TDS Recon Pocket PC with a Socket Bluetooth Card. The Recon is running TDS Survey Pro 4.5.3. I also have an iPhone 4S with mobile tethering enabled. My ultimate objective is to connect to the Florida Department of Transportation VRS Network. I have been able the bond the 2 devices together, but when I try to connect to the network, TDS informs me that "The required service is currently not available in the device you've selected."

The service that the recon says that my iPhone's has is "Wireless iAP (Bluetooth "Serial Port" service)" which I guess is not the service that it is looking for.

I have heard of Jail Breaking the iPhone as an option, but I am not sure that will work either. Any ideas?

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Posted : October 7, 2013 12:38 pm
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Could it be related to the changes in the Florida system right now? I hear they are not providing corrections to the intermediary companies (eg. Lengemann or GPServ) and are planning on a service directly to the consumer.


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 12:58 pm
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> Could it be related to the changes in the Florida system right now? I hear they are not providing corrections to the intermediary companies (eg. Lengemann or GPServ) and are planning on a service directly to the consumer.

No, I don't think I am that far yet. I think it has something to do with Apple's version of Bluetooth not being compatible with what my Recon wants to hear. I am willing to hear any other cheap alternatives to hook up to FDOTs network.


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 1:15 pm
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can you access the internet on your recon over the iphone?


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 1:28 pm
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> > Could it be related to the changes in the Florida system right now? I hear they are not providing corrections to the intermediary companies (eg. Lengemann or GPServ) and are planning on a service directly to the consumer.
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> No, I don't think I am that far yet. I think it has something to do with Apple's version of Bluetooth not being compatible with what my Recon wants to hear. I am willing to hear any other cheap alternatives to hook up to FDOTs network.

That's basically correct. It will see the iphone, but not recognize it as a modem.


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 1:30 pm

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You say you have mobile tethering enabled, but are you paying for tethering through your cell provider? Most cell companies charge extra (mine is $15 per month) and I could not find any way to beat the system. That sounds like what your problem may be.


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 1:47 pm
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> You say you have mobile tethering enabled, but are you paying for tethering through your cell provider? Most cell companies charge extra (mine is $15 per month) and I could not find any way to beat the system. That sounds like what your problem may be.

I'm on AT&T, it's $25 extra a month for me. That shouldn't be the problem. I can connect my laptop to the internet through the iPhone, so that works. I think it is the Apple Bluetooth that is the problem.

I do have an extra Compact Flash adapter on my Recon. Do you guys think if I bought a Wi-Fi card, it would help?

Thanks,


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 1:54 pm
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> can you access the internet on your recon over the iphone?

No access. It tries to dial out, but it does not appear to see the iPhone as a Bluetooth phone.


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 2:05 pm
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I do not think it will work. Even though the iPhone supports tethering over Bluetooth, it doesn't show up to most devices as a phone but a computer. Most data collectors have no parameters for using that connection for tethering. I have never been able to successfully tether an iPhone, even by jailbreaking.


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 2:21 pm
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I tried to use my Iphone as a modem with my Leica setup. The problem is that the Iphone does not have any of the old AT commands but instead relies on Wi-Fi to tether with other devised. The Wi-Fi card may work, unfortunately that is not an option for me.

As a side note, it is getting harder to find phones that will actually utilize the AT commands.


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 2:26 pm

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I am sorry to say this, but throw the crapple away or sell it on eBay and buy an android... or buy a new data collector! I used to drool over an iPhone until I bought one and realized how poorly they communicate with survey gear. The bluetooth on the iphone has no serial function - all you can do it hook up earphones/hands free devices. So you can't send any files from an iPhone to anything else, even the computer (it might send photos??). The next problem I had was the wifi hotspot. It has one and all of my stuff will connect to it except for the damn data collectors :pissed: It turns out the password on the hotspot cant be turned off and there is only type of encryption and my TSC2's were like, "No comprende" (FWIW, a TSC3 will definitely work with the iphone hotspot)

I even installed Cydia (aka jailbreak) and installed MyWi and I had the same problems. You can turn the password off with MyWi, but the collectors would never recognize it.

Go get an Android, buddy! Or a brand new DC!

(sorry I am on my phone, so I hope that made sense)


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 2:32 pm
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I was hoping to do this without much expense. I guess I will have to break down and buy something else. :'(


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 2:48 pm
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What information are you using to dial?
The number to dial should be *99# and the APN should isp.cingular


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 3:10 pm
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Most cellphone companies practically give away the standalone hotspots. Mine is through USCellular and the device was free, service costs me $25 per month. Keeps my phone available for use as a phone and gives me a separate device that gets my gps, laptop, tablet, etc on the net. Or depending on how much data you will need, look at one of the pay as you go hotspots from on of the providers that Walmart carries.


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 3:54 pm
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> What information are you using to dial?
> The number to dial should be *99# and the APN should isp.cingular

I tried *99# and *99***1# with no success.


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 5:03 pm

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I tried that with no success, you may have more success with a wifi card, but i am not sure the pocket pc version would work anyways. I had major trouble connecting to my gps via bluetooth with a pocket pc recon..on later versions(400x) with wifi and/or a nomad..no trouble at all.


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 6:28 pm
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> I tried that with no success, you may have more success with a wifi card, but i am not sure the pocket pc version would work anyways. I had major trouble connecting to my gps via bluetooth with a pocket pc recon..on later versions(400x) with wifi and/or a nomad..no trouble at all.

I have not had too much problem with the Bluetooth connecting to the GPS. When I have had a problem, it was nothing that a hardware reboot wouldn't fix. I ordered a Wi-Fi card off of ebay for $20. I'll see where that takes me.


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 7:01 pm
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let me know if that works for you. the trouble I had was not that I couldnt get the receiver to connect to bluetooth. The GPS would suddenly lose all sats, and only a reset would get them back. I sent the GPS in for repair and even after a new board was installed it happened repeatedly. (Hipelite plus). Later I switched to a Nomad and have not had error since. If I hook the recon up, same problem again...Something in that bluetooth module, the hiper doesnt like.


 
Posted : October 8, 2013 7:53 am
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I can confirm all said above this message. I have tried all of the 'solutions' above and concur that the Iphone (any) cannot connect without DUN (Dial Up Network) connection capability. Which they do not support. Then you need a dial up service that operates on a cell phone for data transfer. Verizon no longer is signing up new customers that use DUN. AT&T still does but believe it is limited and I haven't gotten it to work either.

Some have said using a WI-FI adapter, but I've got a ZOOM modem (50 bucks and requires a SIM card) and a $20 WI=FI that are not connecting either.

Still trying to find a solution too.

Hoping someone here has a solution.


 
Posted : October 8, 2013 8:17 am
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I had the same problem with my iPhone 4s. I finally switched to a Galaxy note 2 that can be set up as a wifi hot spot. It works awesomely. I would suggest taking the plunge and ditching the iphone.

I have a base running RTK corrections over NTRIP. I use my phone to connect to the TSC3. It works like a charm.

Good Luck


 
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