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(@old-shatterhand)
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I've been a happy owner of a Paracosm PX-80 handheld LIDAR,?ÿ since the new software version (v.2.2) came out. Is anyone here using this tool? I'd love to discuss my experiences with him.

 
Posted : 30/01/2020 9:56 am
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What do you do with it?

What kind of accuracy do you achieve?

 
Posted : 30/01/2020 11:45 am
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Looks similar to the GeoSLAM equipment. I demo'd a Zeb-REVO a while back. It's pretty slick for stuff like floor plans and tree surveys. The processing software had a floor plan routine that would translate the scan to a 2D CAD drawing. Processing is pretty fast and hands-off thanks to the SLAM algorithm.

I remember the relative error being about about 3cm. Range is limited compared to most static terrestrial scanners, but these things are usually billed for indoor work.

If we did more condo plats I would kick and scream at management until they got me one. Far faster and easier than a crew spending days taping multiple floors of units, then trying to square everything up and calculate a CAD drawing over the next day. Walk the building with a PX-80 or equivalent in less than half the time, let the workstation crank away on the data, then grab the 2D files and start dimensioning.

 
Posted : 30/01/2020 12:21 pm
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Similar to Geoslam, but cheaper. I don't like cables, in my experience the cable has always been broken first. I hate when an expensive tool can't be used because of the cheapest component to break down. The PX-80 does not use any cables in the field, so I chose this one. I surveyed industrial halls, offices, residential buildings. Great for stockpile surveying too.?ÿ Just walk and scan. The problem was measuring small rooms, where if I suddenly turned the device over, the scan drifted. The new softver version seems to solve this problem. I also find that the relative error is around 3 cm, but it can be reduced by noise filtering.

 
Posted : 30/01/2020 11:51 pm
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What is the price of paracosm system? I was looking to buy a geoslam revo but the bottleneck is the software that is sold separately.?ÿ

Also after 20-30 minutes of scanning you will receive a big drift of you pointcloud..

 
Posted : 31/01/2020 1:57 am
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About 29500$.

Paracosm say: "Keeping interrior scan under 15 minutes in lenght, exterrior scan under 35 minutes in lenght."?ÿ

They also have a measurment method to avoid drafting.

 
Posted : 31/01/2020 2:57 am
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I've looked at the dataset from paracosm and when i slice in pointcab for a planview it doesn't look to bad

SLICE

When i take a section view, it looks very disturbing. Not very level. I hope they resolved this at the moment.

SLICE2

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I recently went to a demo of the blk2go from Leica and was pretty impressed. My findings are on this post on the Laserscanning Forum

https://laserscanningforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=83326#p83326

 
Posted : 31/01/2020 3:40 am
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Slam technology is the future i think but have a long way to go.. Price incuded and software?

Because geoslam including software cost 50.000$ plus vat

 
Posted : 31/01/2020 4:43 am
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I don't think this is a bug in a PX-80, but it's easy to fix in Cloudcompare or Pointcab. I'll look.

 
Posted : 31/01/2020 4:45 am
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@johnymal

It has a small viewer "Retrace" with measurment and a little dxf export, but CloudCompare is free and has a lot to do with it. I'm in Europe, I don't know your tax rules. You can inquire here: https://paracosm.io/

 
Posted : 31/01/2020 7:34 am
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Sorry! Now 32500$!

 
Posted : 31/01/2020 10:44 am
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@beuckie

I tried it, it seems to have been solved.

Screenshot 1

 

 
Posted : 31/01/2020 10:59 am
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@old-shatterhand

The demo'd workflow for interiors had the operator move backward into each room so as to keep common features in "sight". Helped the SLAM routine place the new room in relation to the adjacent room.

 

 
Posted : 31/01/2020 11:49 am
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@old-shatterhand

Hello, do you think this is a Survey quality system that would be effective for urban environments and/or topos in the woods?  Please speak to the workflow getting data into cad and accuracy with noise filtering.  Thanks!

 
Posted : 02/02/2020 5:54 am
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Hello,

I was planning to apply SLAM over a MMS-point cloud but I realised that there is no overlap between consecutive scans (from consecutive poses of the sensor).

This is due to the fact that the LiDAR sensor used rotates around a horizontal axis, resulting in vertical scans (vertical lines parallel to each other) without overlap between them. However, the distance between the lines can be very short, e.g. around 1 cm when the MMS moves slowly.

In addition to this, every survey consist of 4 runs which are processed together and averaged. So, every area is revisited 3 times. In this sense, there is certainly overlap, but not among consecutive scans.

I was wondering if it could still be a way to perform SLAM in this situation.

Regards,

Pablo

 
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