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I would say this was block voting in the SEC.

And I would say the BCS is toast. Looks like $40 million dollars to the SEC. They can use it because they are very good at hiding their player payment money.

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Posted : December 4, 2011 5:32 pm
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"It's the economy, stupid!"

Bottom line: The BCS realizes Alabama will bring a LOT more fans and $$$$$$$ to New Orleans than Okie State simply due to the proximity of the game.

 
Posted : December 4, 2011 5:36 pm
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I Was Surprised The Big Ten Got A Second Pick

Michigan vs Virginia Tech in the Sugar Bowl

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Posted : December 4, 2011 5:55 pm
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Did The Big 12 Get Hosed ?

BCS # 8 Kansas State sits out while # 11 Virginia Tech plays.
# 12 Baylor sits while # 13 Michigan plays.
# 14 Oklahoma surprised me in being that low, that loss to Texas Tech cost them.

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Posted : December 4, 2011 6:03 pm
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Did The Big 12 Get Hosed ?

It is too bad the game of college football has become so concentrated on money. There are several teams that were "hosed" and overlooked due to it.

Personally, I think the BCS should remove all conference tie-ins for the major bowl games like the Rose, Sugar, Orange and Fiesta. #1 & #2 go to the BCS Title game and #3-#10 play in the other BCS bowl games.

 
Posted : December 4, 2011 6:12 pm
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I Was Surprised The Big Ten Got A Second Pick

> Michigan vs Virginia Tech in the Sugar Bowl

This one really is surprising. Va Tech? C'mon, man.

Boise State should have been in this one.

 
Posted : December 4, 2011 7:11 pm
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I Was Surprised The Big Ten Got A Second Pick

> > Michigan vs Virginia Tech in the Sugar Bowl
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> This one really is surprising. Va Tech? C'mon, man.
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> Boise State should have been in this one.

I'm a VT fan, and even I thought we got a huge undeserved gift with that. Totally screwy BCS year.

 
Posted : December 4, 2011 7:24 pm
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The ACC Second Pick Was Not As Surprising

Virginia Tech being ranked # 11 ahead of ACC champion Clemson # 15.

Leaving # 6 Arkansas out may have been to avoid politicians from instantly killing the BCS future. That also takes # 9 South Carolina out of the mix.

But there was no reason to ignore both Boise State # 7 and Kansas State # 8. One or the other based on merit not fan draw. Heck # 4 Stanford is going to the Fiesta Bowl and it is doubtful their busload of fans would go farther than Pasadena. OSU fans can gobble up those extra tickets.

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Posted : December 4, 2011 7:41 pm
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The ACC Second Pick Was Not As Surprising

> Virginia Tech being ranked # 11 ahead of ACC champion Clemson # 15.
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> Leaving # 6 Arkansas out may have been to avoid politicians from instantly killing the BCS future. That also takes # 9 South Carolina out of the mix.
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> But there was no reason to ignore both Boise State # 7 and Kansas State # 8. One or the other based on merit not fan draw. Heck # 4 Stanford is going to the Fiesta Bowl and it is doubtful their busload of fans would go farther than Pasadena. OSU fans can gobble up those extra tickets.
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> Paul in PA

They could not have picked Arkansas, there is a rule that only two teams from one conference can get in, unless somehow a conference has the 1 and 2 ranked teams and neither is the conference champs, then they can have 3..

 
Posted : December 4, 2011 8:12 pm
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$56.8 Million To The SEC

9 SEC teams in Bowl games. The SEC had to give up its SEC #8 in the Compass Bowl to SMU because they had no more bowl eligible teams.

#8 Boise State 11-1 gets $1.1 million for the MAACO bowl versus Arizona State 6-6

Meanwhile:
Vanderbilt 6-6 $1.7 M
Mississippi State 6-6 $1.8 M
Florida 6-6 $2.7 M
Auburn 7-5 $2.9 M
Georgia 10-3 $3.5 M
Arkansas 10-2 $3.6 M
South Carolina 10-2 $4.6 M
Alabama 11-1 $18 M
LSU 13-0 $18 M

The above looks like an anti-trust violation, because seriously Vanderbilt and Mississippi State cannot outdraw BSU.

Houston 12-1 does as poorly as BSU, $1.1 million to play Penn State in the Ticket City (never heard of it) Bowl.

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Posted : December 4, 2011 8:24 pm
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$56.8 Million To The SEC

It is easy to see that everything is skewed towards the east and south. What a farce! Taking into account only the top 11 bowls in payout to each team, the SEC will gst nearly $50 million, the ACC over $40 million and the Big East in one game will get $18 million. Meanwhile, the Big 12 is looking at about $25 million and the PAC-12 $36 million. The biggest joke of all though is the $48 million going to the Big 10 in those same 11 bowls.

Is it no wonder that the same conferences lock up the big bucks year after year after year? The structure of most of the polls favors the densely populated areas of the country. The results should be more heavily dependent on strength of schedule instead of how to keep the same old dollars going to the same few areas. A prime example is Alabama only playing two teams in the Top 25 and losing one of those while Oklahoma State played four and won them all. Regional bias is the only explanation for this foolishness.

 
Posted : December 4, 2011 8:45 pm
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$56.8 Million To The SEC

> because seriously Vanderbilt and Mississippi State cannot outdraw BSU.

I doubt that. MSU has a pretty good fan base.

 
Posted : December 4, 2011 9:13 pm
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"It's the economy, stupid!"

> Bottom line: The BCS realizes Alabama will bring a LOT more fans and $$$$$$$ to New Orleans than Okie State simply due to the proximity of the game.

Horsefeathers
OSU would have brought in more $$ than Bama.
Bama fans have been here many times and they know the dos and dont's. After all, dem rednecks from Bama will have extended family here.:-)
OSU inaugural visit here would have been a real money maker.
Anytime tht you have a team base have to fly into the city. ChaChing

Like I said ..complete horsefeathers.
Tyhus is what New orleans does best than any othe city in the US.
This is why veryone loves the Superbowl here.
It is why , N.O. is hosting the Ncaa Final 4 again this year.

 
Posted : December 4, 2011 10:39 pm
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I Was Surprised The Big Ten Got A Second Pick

This one is a moneymaker for the city.
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Posted : December 4, 2011 10:40 pm
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$56.8 Million To The SEC

MSU was allotted 12k tickets, of which by yesterday were sold out before we even knew our destination.;-)

 
Posted : December 4, 2011 10:46 pm
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$56.8 Million To The SEC

Vanderbilt is one of the "Ivy League" universities of the South. A lot big buck$ alumni and there is a lot of $$ circulating around Nashville, TN...certainly more than Boise, ID.

Rice and Tulane are the other Southern Ivy League schools.

 
Posted : December 4, 2011 10:59 pm
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For the first time in six years

an SEC team will LOSE in the National Championship game. Like it or not (I am NOT an SEC fan) they do produce champions and therefore draw the big bucks.

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Posted : December 5, 2011 5:41 am
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$52.5 Million To The Big Ten

Wisconsin 11-2 $17 M
Michigan 10-2 $17 M
Nebraska 9-3 $4.6 M
Michigan State 10-3 $3.5 M
Iowa 7-5 $3.3 M
Ohio State 6-6 $2.7 M
Northwestern 6-6 $1.7 M
Penn State 9-3 $1.1 M
Illinois 6-6 $0.8 M
Purdue 6-6 $0.8 M

10 Teams in bowls.

Penn State was a hot potato, 3 teams with much worse records getting higher paying bowls. After tatoo-gate I expected Ohio State to have to sit out a bowl game, but wait, NCAA has not yet finished their investigation.

So Penn State gets the Toilet (oops, Ticket) City Bowl at the Old Cotton Bowl Stadium. Please note the Cotton Bowl is now plated elsewhere. Penn State does not do as bad with that $1.1 million because they get a piece of everyone else's bowl pie. The Big Ten doing a better job of sharing their excess than other conferences.

With conference expansions to 14 or 16 teams, conference subdivisions may almost never meet the other subdivision counterparts and there will be many more chances for a conference to have multiple 1 or 2 loss teams, pushing the Boise States, TCUs and Houstons farther back.

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Posted : December 5, 2011 6:28 am
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It is time and

now more that ever it is evident that the issue of paying college athletes is justified.
To blow out your knee or suffer other serious injuries for these fantastic sums of money isn't worth the cost of a college education. It is worth more.
Just go to NCAA shop and look at the merchandising money being made from jerseys, sweatshirts et all. is astronomical. Players should receive monies from merchandising. Who knows how much the merchandising monies is worth?
They sell all the Heisman hopeful gear and these specific players do not receive a penny. If one of these young men suffer a career ending injury in a BC$ game, it is tough shat for him.
If you are paying the coaching staff and support millions, ten they need to start paying players. I will even say thatthe NFL should contribute money to NCAA football players pay/expenses since it is their minor league/development league so to speak
The money that you are citing should trickle down to the players and their families.

Go to the NCAA shop website and se the money that they are making off the players.
Notice they only use the players number and not name.

http://www.collegefootballstore.com/COLLEGE_LSU_Tigers_Heisman_Specific_Products

 
Posted : December 5, 2011 7:06 am
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Some NCAA Silliness

Say you are recruiting a high school football player. You can give him a coffee and a bagel, but put cream cheese on that bagel and it is a recruiting violation. Let him sleep on the floor and you have provided him accomodations, another violation.

If he gets injured they can take away his scholarship. It is slavery, because even once you have fullfilled your "amateur" obligation they can still profit from your image. Indentured servants at least had a limit on their years of servitude.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : December 5, 2011 8:44 am
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