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(@paul-in-pa)
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Texas to set 85 MPH speed limit on new toll road.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/06/13705669-85-mph-texas-to-open-toll-highway-with-fastest-speed-limit-in-nation?lite

Does EZ pass work in that range?

Paul in PA

 
Posted : September 6, 2012 6:14 pm
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I thought some states already had an 85 mph limit. I guess I was mistaking that for the 80 mph limit I've seen in Texas.

 
Posted : September 6, 2012 6:53 pm
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I think Montana has a 80 limit on some hwys.

Utah has a couple of 80mph stretches on I 15.

I preferred when NV and MT were no limit.

 
Posted : September 6, 2012 8:21 pm
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I read that this morning in the paper. The road runs out of Austin. All of the BS coming out of there tends to get backed up if we dont truck it out pretty fast 😛

 
Posted : September 7, 2012 5:32 am
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didn't Montana have NO speed limit on the highways for a while.. then realized that wasn't such a great idea??

 
Posted : September 7, 2012 10:39 am
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Montana had a "reasonable & prudent" daytime speed limit up until the "National 55mph speed limit." It later tried the same thing in the mid-90s, but it didn't last long.

I used to drive my Porsche on fishing trips to Montana (1970s), just so that I could "open it up" a little.

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Posted : September 7, 2012 11:22 am
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I believe that the problem with the revival of "reasonable & prudent" was that the Montana Supreme Court found that it was so vague that any enforcement ran afoul of the equal protection under the law clause of the constitution.

 
Posted : September 7, 2012 11:33 am
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Perhaps they should have tried using the phrase "with all deliberate speed".

After all, everybody knows what that means.......

 
Posted : September 7, 2012 12:03 pm
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Status update on the defendant in that Montana case -

Rudy Stanko returned to prison

A few years ago he was living in the next county south here in Wyoming, but apparently he has gone back to Montana.

A couple of Mr. Stanko's career highlights include a conviction for selling contaminated meat to the federal school-lunch program and an effort to proclaim himself the "Pontifex Maximus" of the violent white-supremacist World Church of the Creator.

GB

 
Posted : September 7, 2012 12:09 pm
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In Arizona, it's 75 on a lot of the major highways but NO ONE ever goes 75. They go more like 90-95. If I drove 75 in the slow lane, they'd honk at me, flash their lights at me to get out of the way, etc... sheesh!!! :-/

 
Posted : September 7, 2012 12:58 pm
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I remember that from working there in 1970.

 
Posted : September 7, 2012 1:42 pm
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> NO ONE ever goes 75. They go more like 90-95.

That brings up a point I have never understood. Everyone, including the police, tell you it is okay to drive 5 or 10 over the limit? Is it a law or not? Are there any other laws that work this way? Can I rob a bank, but only take $100 of the thousands I could have taken? Or sell drugs, but only one day of the week?
Why not raise the limit 5 or 10 mph if it is okay anyway and enforce it. Then my kids will not learn that it is okay to break the law "a little"!

 
Posted : September 7, 2012 2:32 pm
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Speed Requires A Measurement And Is Subject To Error

So unless you exceed the speed limit by an amount greater than the possible calibration and observation error, they will not waste the Court's time against any knowledgeable attorney.

Would you like to go to the Board to explain an 0.04' error? Do you think the Board wants to hear it?

Paul in PA

 
Posted : September 8, 2012 1:44 pm
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Status update on the defendant in that Montana case -

I liked the "reasonable and prudent" traffic speed law.
But the police need to be able to enforce it.

If conditions dictate that you should drive 40 because of ice and snow and some guy in a Tahoe is bombing down the highway at 75 he should be pulled over and given a ticket.

It would take a guy named Stanko to mess it all up. Thanks!

 
Posted : September 8, 2012 2:03 pm
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Speed Requires A Measurement And Is Subject To Error

I understand your reasoning and that the courts should not waste time/money. But you may be missing my point. Do you drive the speed limit and tell your children to because it is the law? Or do you drive 5 or 10 over with your children watching and tell them it's okay to break the law because "unless you exceed the speed limit by an amount greater than the possible calibration and observation error, they will not waste the Court's time against any knowledgeable attorney."

 
Posted : September 8, 2012 7:31 pm
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Speed Requires A Measurement And Is Subject To Error

Your speedometer is not a precision instrument. Have you checked its calibration (with your current tires) to be sure you already aren't 2,3, even 5 mph faster than it indicates?

 
Posted : September 9, 2012 10:52 am
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You should roll through there doing 60-65. Of course the last time I went through there I was in a one ton P/U pulling a 25' Stock Trailer.

B-)

 
Posted : September 10, 2012 5:52 am