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(@kent-mcmillan)
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For the benefit of the frustrated artists, I have a few words of advice. It's much more satisfying to just paint on canvas and let maps be maps. The painting below is of a mesquite that was marked by surveyors in 1847 in Concho County, Texas at a time when the land for miles around was controlled by the Comanches. This is not a map, it's a painting.

The next is a painting of a windmill on a ranch in Kendall County that in the late 19th century was operated by a couple of prominent San Antonians, one an architect named Alfred Giles and the other a judge named John H. James. This is not a map, it's a painting.

The first two images were of subjects that pertained to land disputes. This one below is of land in Presidio County that was the subject of litigation after silver ore was found in paying quantities on it. However, it is not a map, it's a painting.

Now this below is of course a universal North Arrow. Feel free to copy and paste it into your map, highlighting the spine that happens to point to the right North.

 
Posted : December 22, 2012 9:33 pm
(@dave-karoly)
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Posted : December 22, 2012 9:40 pm
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Nice work Kent.
Do they have a price?

Here is a pic of anther surveyor artist work that I have hangoing in my ho,me.
It is a pen and ink print with fine detail of the "Maisons des Allemands" in Lafayette, LA. Details like the chipped concrete piers and the clothes line strung between the porch pots My picture does not to justice to the artist's work. There is no north arrow on the print.
It was drawn by Ricardo Johnson PLS of Lafayette, LA. He started the "Houston, we have a problem " post last year about the trimble time "armageddon" situation.

 
Posted : December 22, 2012 10:01 pm
(@kent-mcmillan)
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> Do they have a price?

I could probably be persuaded to send you a print if you like. I'm keeping the originals until I have so many that I have to sell some to make room for more.

 
Posted : December 22, 2012 10:12 pm
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Kent,
very nice work ... and with your comments along you can feel a surveying story behind them.

When you're out there in the field do you already know you will be painting the scene ... or does that come later?

Happy Holidays from Belgium,
Christof.

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 12:42 am
(@dave-ingram)
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GREAT work Kent. I'm envious. There have been many a time I wish I had artistic talents.

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 2:41 am
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Kent, you are truly a man on many talents.

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 4:41 am
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:good:

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 5:45 am
(@duane-frymire)
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Nice work. I think I'll use the windmill instead of the spines tho. Most of my clients are more interested in which way the winds blowing than wherever north happens to be:)

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 5:45 am
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I consider my plats to be pieces of art:

ftp://ftp.geostor.arkansas.gov/Monthly_Plats/Hot%20Spring/218603.pdf

Peace.

Nate

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 5:57 am
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Nice work. I would make the title more prominent; took me a bit to figure out why fire trucks were on the map and hence if it was a real map or a joke based on the recent discussions. Like you, I dress up a map to look nice. Several clients have them framed and mounted above the fireplace. Land is dear to the hearts of many that own it and they enjoy sharing it by way of a map if the map has some artistic appeal. I like to give the client something they can value long after the attorneys, banks, title companies, etc. are finished with it.

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 6:07 am
(@don-blameuser)
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Very nice, Nate.
I particularly like your North Arrow 🙂

Don

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 7:59 am
(@kent-mcmillan)
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> When you're out there in the field do you already know you will be painting the scene ... or does that come later?

Well, there's something about the scene that makes an impression at the time. I take lots of photos and study them later to see which image still has something worth painting. I use the photo for reference, but when painting usually adjust things a bit to try to enhance what was interesting in the first place.

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 8:04 am
(@kent-mcmillan)
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> Nice work. I think I'll use the windmill instead of the spines tho. Most of my clients are more interested in which way the winds blowing than wherever north happens to be.

That windmill was one of three that were key monuments in a lawsuit that revolved around a map drawn in 1916 showing a road then in place. The tower, fan, and motor were almost certainly replacements, but the well beneath it was permanent and well known.

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 8:41 am
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I'm going out on a limb and putting
Mr. Karoly in the minimalist school
of art.

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 8:49 am
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Duane

I have a number of my plats framed, by my clients, and on their walls. I think it is complimentary when a client frames my plats.

Nate

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 2:53 pm
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Reminded me of some of the early Taos artists. Especially Naumer.

Beautiful.

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 5:31 pm
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Nice plat nate.

Here are a couple examples of mine.

This is a large plat designed to be folded.

This is another example but I also included approx field location and acreages for client. I also included a 24X36 topo and aerial along with it. I figure as much as I charged him, at least he has something nice to look at. 😉

I generally place the vicinity map with greater detail as the client looks at it. State, county, district, and then finally a road detail. Many of my clients are out of state and I believe they like the detail so they can see where their property is in West Virginia.

I don't do this on small plats. No room and would be to small to look good. They still get a vicinity map and, if room permits, an aerial and topo. A few don't get it.

I recently put out a plat that did not have all my usual detail. It was a super rush and I basically had only a few hours to work with it. It met minimum standards, but I still hated giving such a plain plat out.

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 5:59 pm
(@kent-mcmillan)
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> Reminded me of some of the early Taos artists. Especially Naumer.

I appreciate the compliment. Thanks. Of the folks who were painting in the Western US in the twenties and thirties, I think Maynard Dixon got it closest to right. Those of his canvases I've seen really have a presence.

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 6:24 pm
(@don-blameuser)
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Should we start a whole new thread about "closest to right" v. "what I like," or
should we continue (apologies) to high jack this one, or
should I just go to bed?

I'm open to suggestion but fading fast...

Don

 
Posted : December 23, 2012 6:45 pm
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