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(@just-a-surveyor)
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I am sure everyone here has run across phrases in a deed that make you go....Hmmmm......and then move on as it is probably just some lawyer trying to make a deed sound more important HOWEVER there is one word that I have seen many times that I can't help but wonder WHY it is still included in some deeds and that is the reference to, NEUTERED.

This is often seen in the context of describing heirs and assigns and makes reference to the feminine, neutered and the masculine. So has there been a situation in America where a neutered male is a concern?

I can't seem to find a deed where that is used right now but if I do I will post it but why do you think that has been included in deeds?

 
Posted : December 1, 2017 5:28 am
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I've never seen that. Perhaps it is a by-product of the eugenics practices during the early 20th century - sterilizing people with "undesirable" traits, such as mentally retarded, being of mixed-race descent, or whatever other criteria they used. A lot of African and Native Americans were sterilized around the turn of the last century. Noting that someone was neutered could be a way to say that they would have no direct heirs upon their deaths.

 
Posted : December 1, 2017 5:38 am
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I found one and it is not a real good example however but can't figure out how to post it.

 
Posted : December 1, 2017 5:54 am
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Words shall be construed as masculine, NEUTER, or feminine as appropriate.

If they said neutered, they were in error.

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Posted : December 1, 2017 6:29 am
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"So has there been a situation in America where a neutered male is a concern?"

21st century?

 
Posted : December 1, 2017 6:53 am
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Bill93

I have seen it as NEUTER & NEUTERED.

Example: "In this deed where the context so requires, the masculine gender includes feminine andor neuter and the singular number includes the plural." And so on......

I have seen it used several ways but can only find one right now with the above verbiage.

 
Posted : December 1, 2017 7:12 am
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Ah, now that makes sense. The dictionary definition of neuter includes "genderless" (neither masculine, nor feminine) nouns and pronouns. So what the phrase is saying is along the lines of "use of the words 'he', 'him', 'his', etc. intends to include the use of 'she', 'her', 'her's, etc. without having to specify 'his or hers' at every use of these pronouns".

 
Posted : December 1, 2017 7:36 am
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The neuter pronouns being 'one, it, its, etc.'

 
Posted : December 1, 2017 7:39 am
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Definition of?ÿneuter

1a?ÿ:?ÿof, relating to, or constituting the gender that ordinarily includes most words or grammatical forms referring to things classed as neither masculine nor feminine
b?ÿ:?ÿneither active nor passive?ÿ:?ÿintransitive
2:?ÿtaking no side?ÿ:?ÿneutral
3:?ÿlacking or having imperfectly developed or nonfunctional generative organs
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from Merriam Webster.?ÿ Don't think of it as a verb.?ÿ I would think the past tense (neutered) is a typo by the scrivener who may not have known the context.
 
Posted : December 1, 2017 8:46 am
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I met a man who was neutered....

 
Posted : December 1, 2017 8:50 am
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I could see such phrasing being used in deed descriptions at a location about five miles south of where I live. The intersection of Hannegan Road and State Route 544 is known as "Hinotes Corner"...

 
Posted : December 1, 2017 8:56 am
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A corporation would be neuter as it clearly is not masculine or feminine.

 
Posted : December 1, 2017 8:31 pm
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read some deeds recently where a couple of sisters made a fortune selling their jointly owned tracts off to a coal company bout 100 years ago.

kept calling them "spinsters". as familiar as i am with the term, never had seen it used in a deed before, and it occurred with emphasis in those deeds, almost as if to say "look ladies: if you eschew the company of of the Y chromosome you might end up swimming in cash like these two."

 
Posted : December 4, 2017 5:40 am
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I've seen the term "spinster" in a deed circa 1960, which I thought was rather late for such usage...

 
Posted : December 5, 2017 9:22 am
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Posted by: Just A. Surveyor

So has there been a situation in America where a neutered male is a concern?

You haven't been to California, have you?

 
Posted : December 6, 2017 2:40 pm
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Posted by: Just A. Surveyor

So has there been a situation in America where a neutered male is a concern?

You haven't been to California, have you?

Last time I was in California was in 1989 or 1990 before it became a communist state.

 
Posted : December 6, 2017 3:47 pm