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(@kent-mcmillan)
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paden cash, post: 441717, member: 20 wrote: ...As compared to your lush hanging gardens of Crane County?

If you have Scots ancestors, I would be almost certain to guess that they arrived during the 18th century on one of the early waves of immigration to the Carolinas that filtered westward before reaching Tennessee and making the jump from there directly to Oklahoma. What did I win?

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 11:27 am
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Kent McMillan, post: 441726, member: 3 wrote: If you have Scots ancestors, I would be almost certain that they arrived during the 18th century on one of the early waves of immigration to the Carolinas that filtered westward before reaching Tennessee and making the jump from there directly to Oklahoma. What did I win?

Almost a Kewpie Doll...you left out Texas. Scotland to the quasi-Carolinas (Virginia, 1750-ish), then to Tennessee, then to Texas. Then to Okie Homie.

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 11:38 am
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paden cash, post: 441637, member: 20 wrote: Ancestry and the inexpensive DNA tests can turn a man's world upside down. For $99 you can make every ancestor of yours a liar by discounting all the stories told to you as a child about "who came from where". I have recently been researching my Irish roots, only to find they're actually roots from the east side of the Irish Sea in Scotland. But I pressed on to explore the lands occupied by my genetic donors, Clan MacTavish. It was there I discovered a most unsettling bit of history.

While the Scottish Highlands seem to be the historical and more romantic origin of the ancient Scot clans; my kin of Clan MacTavish lived and farmed in the area between Dumfries and Courthill in the South of Scotland. The area was also occupied by at least two other prominent Clans; Clan Campbell (the Scottish version of Smith) and....Clan MacMillan.

I guess I've discovered why they picked-up shop and headed west....

Well cousin - howdy. A significant part of me came from Motherwell. My Greatgrandfather settled in Iowa via Alberta, Canada. In spite of this, I am apparently more British than the average citizen of Britain...

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 11:43 am
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paden cash, post: 441731, member: 20 wrote: Almost a Kewpie Doll...you left out Texas. Scotland to the quasi-Carolinas (Virginia, 1750-ish), then to Tennessee, then to Texas. Then to Okie Homie.

It's a good outline for a story, but the claim that your progenitors actually arrived in Texas and then moved to Oklahoma isn't plausible unless they found Texas life too law-abiding.

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 11:50 am
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Kent McMillan, post: 441735, member: 3 wrote: It's a good outline for a story, but the claim that your progenitors actually arrived in Texas and then moved to Oklahoma isn't plausible unless they found Texas life too law-abiding.

McMinn Co., TN to Parker Co., TX and then to Wilbarger Co., TX and THEN across the Rio Roxo to Jefferson & Cotton Co., OT. And you might be right about the local laws. This side of my family was particularly proud of their ability to produce distilled corn liquor and the liquor laws were a little less stringent in the OT.

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 12:09 pm
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Uncle Slayton's got his Texan pride
Back in the thickets with his Asian bride
He's got a Airstream trailer and a Holstein cow
He still makes whiskey 'cause he still knows how
He plays that Choctaw bingo every Friday night
You know he had to leave Texas but he won't say why
He owns a quarter section up by Lake Eufala
Caught a great big ol' blue cat on a driftin' jug line
Sells his hardwood timber to the shipping mill
Cooks that crystal meth because the shine don't sell
He cooks that crystal meth because the shine don't sell
You know he likes his money he don't mind the smell

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 12:11 pm
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James Fleming, post: 441741, member: 136 wrote: Uncle Slayton's got his Texan pride
Back in the thickets with his Asian bride
He's got a Airstream trailer and a Holstein cow
He still makes whiskey 'cause he still knows how
He plays that Choctaw bingo every Friday night
You know he had to leave Texas but he won't say why
He owns a quarter section up by Lake Eufala
Caught a great big ol' blue cat on a driftin' jug line
Sells his hardwood timber to the shipping mill
Cooks that crystal meth because the shine don't sell
He cooks that crystal meth because the shine don't sell
You know he likes his money he don't mind the smell

Choctaw Bingo is the State Song of Oklahoma. 😉

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 12:13 pm
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As I understand it half my bloodline is Scots (a small fishing village in Fyfe), the other half a mix of northern Irish (Ulster) and English (Yorkshire and Northumberland)

I would be interested to know if anyone had been sleeping around and there was any Maori or Pacific Islands in the mix

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 12:20 pm
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Funny story about "ancestry":

My youngest son and I started almost twenty years ago piecing together our dotted heritage. I think my first subscription to Ancestry,com was $19,95 a year.

After a few years we had put together a good framework and my son noticed a toggle on their website where you could look up "Famous" people that occupied one's tree. He called one evening and was upset by the fact that an accomplished gentlemen by the name of George Washington Carver was somehow mixed into his lineage.

I got on line and looked...and Carver was NOT in my tree...My son couldn't understand how that could be. I had to explain to him he needed to call his mother (my long divorced first wife) and ask her...not me. 😉

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 12:25 pm
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paden cash, post: 441739, member: 20 wrote: McMinn Co., TN to Parker Co., TX and then to Wilbarger Co., TX and THEN across the Rio Roxo to Jefferson & Cotton Co., OT. And you might be right about the local laws. This side of my family was particularly proud of their ability to produce distilled corn liquor and the liquor laws were a little less stringent in the OT.

Having spent some time recently in Wilbarger County, Texas, I would suspect that your family may not have really intended to move to Oklahoma, but just took a wrong turn and ended up there, wrongly concluding that a tornado blew it away when they couldn't find their house.

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 12:40 pm
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Nate The Surveyor, post: 441652, member: 291 wrote: So, it's "Cousin Kent"...for now!

Well that's better than Cousin Itt.

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 12:59 pm
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paden cash, post: 441739, member: 20 wrote: McMinn Co., TN to Parker Co., TX and then to Wilbarger Co., TX and THEN across the Rio Roxo to Jefferson & Cotton Co., OT. And you might be right about the local laws. This side of my family was particularly proud of their ability to produce distilled corn liquor and the liquor laws were a little less stringent in the OT.

appears that they couldn't stand the heat and/or the Baptists in Tejas.

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 1:04 pm
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All of this reminds me of a story told by a former supervisor many years ago. He was born in 1943. He had a cousin who was nearly the exact same age. One day while fishing with his father and his uncle (the father of said cousin) he learned how his uncle had been in the thick of World War II from Pearl Harbor to near the end in 1945 and had never been able to return to the States during that period. Later he asked his Dad why Uncle Whomever wouldn't admit to getting to come home at any point, especially since Cousin Whomever, Jr. had been born in 1943. Dad had to straighten him out a little on the facts of life and how sometimes things you think you know for certain aren't really very certain at all.

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 2:13 pm
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Frank Shelton, post: 441757, member: 272 wrote: appears that they couldn't stand the heat and/or the Baptists in Tejas.

The only difference between the Baptists and Methodists around here is the Methodists will at least say howdy to you when you see them at the liquor store.

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 3:17 pm
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paden cash, post: 441747, member: 20 wrote: Funny story about "ancestry"

Some of the trees that subscribers to ancestry.com have assembled and posted are obviously wrong.

One side of my family came from a part of England just at the edge of Wales known as Herefordshire and with the surname Pugh were probably originally Welsh. Several generations were born and married spouses who also had been born in Herefordshire before the line departed for America in the 1840s.

However, some well meaning soul had determined that one fellow who was born in 1739 had really been born in Hereford, Pennsylvania. That produced the wierd report that one David Pugh was born in Hereford, Pennsylvania in 1739, had married a woman also born in Hereford, PA, their son had been born in Herefordshire, UK, and both parents had died in Hereford, PA.

I'm not saying that your son isn't related to George Washington Carver, but it would be entirely understandable that someone from Oklahoma might want to improve the basic facts of their existence a bit.

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 4:28 pm
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