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Wendell
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Several years ago, SurveyorConnect was using a simplified forum format like you would find in most forums of the day (and still popular today). The simplified format consisted of a simple list of forums, with a simple list of topics within each forum. The replies within each topic thread were listed in descending order from oldest to newest. New replies would be added to the end of the thread. When you would visit the forum, you could easily pick up where you left off and just continue reading down the list of replies.

A few years ago, after repeated requests from our members, we switched most of the forums to a threaded format. The threaded format allows replies to be made to other replies, nesting them underneath each reply. This is a pretty cool feature because it allows subconversations to be created within a parent topic. The downside is that it wreaks havoc with finding unread replies within a thread, since they are sprinkled throughout the topic. This makes it difficult to pick up where you left off on your previous visit. As of right now, the forums within the Surveying & Related category are set to the threaded format.

Now that we've been using the threaded format for a few years, it is becoming apparent that many of our members are struggling with the unread posts feature. The threaded format shows the last couple of replies for each topic on the Recent Posts page, but if more than two replies have occurred since your last visit, it's really tough to figure out what's going on. However, I don't want to make a big switch back to the simplified format without the input of our members. 🙂

I've changed the forums within the Non-Surveying category to the simplified format so you can make the comparison.

Note that the Recent Posts page will not change either way.

Here are some screenshots to demonstrate how the threaded and simplified formats differ.

Home page: threaded vs. simplified:

index threaded
index simplified

Subcategories: threaded vs. simplified:

subcategory threaded
subcategory simplified

?ÿTopics: threaded vs. simplified:

topic threaded
topic simplified

Now that you've seen and experienced both, which do you prefer? Threaded or Simplified?

Please use the polling options at the top of this post to vote! Feel free to provide your reasoning by replying here. All feedback is appreciated!

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 9:20 am
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Count me as in favor of the simplified format.?ÿ While there are certainly advantages to the threaded approach, I find the the simplified better overall.

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 10:31 am
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The old threaded format could make me dizzy.?ÿ This was incredibly true when we had a post-that-wouldn't-die situation.

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 10:48 am
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I also?ÿ like the simplified better.

Off topic.?ÿ I am in the Eastern time zone.

Why am I seeing your posts coming in three hours later than my current time?

Shouldn't it show as either the same as my current, or three hours earlier.

Example: The post to which I am currently replying has a time stamp of 5:20pm.?ÿ My current time is 14:50, are you posting from the future?

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Posted : October 2, 2021 10:52 am
Wendell
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@holy-cow?ÿ

Regardless of format, topics will still come back to the top when a new reply is posted. ????

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 10:59 am
Wendell
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@bobwesterman?ÿ

Sounds like you need to set the timezone in your profile.

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 11:00 am
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Ignore me.?ÿ I now see that the timestamps I'm seeing are UTC.

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 11:02 am
Wendell
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@bobwesterman?ÿ

No problem! ???

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 11:03 am
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@bobwesterman?ÿ

That's weird.?ÿ The timed stamp at the upper right-hand corner corner of a post should be the time it was wherever you were when the poster clicked reply.?ÿ In my case, in the Central Time Zone, it says he posted the OP at 12:20 p.m. which would have been 10:20 a.m. where Wendell lives.

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 11:04 am
Wendell
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@holy-cow?ÿ

Bingo!

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Posted : October 2, 2021 11:07 am
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@wendell?ÿ

I'm referring to the page-wide zig-zagging that allowed you to follow who was commenting at some point anywhere in the thread.?ÿ There might be eight comments since I had last checked in but they could be at eight vastly different locations in the thread.?ÿ So, I would pull up the thread in its entirety and then scroll down carefully searching for each new post, wherever it was.?ÿ

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 11:10 am
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@wendell?ÿ

My timezone is set.?ÿ I'm thinking it's a chrome thing on my phone.

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 11:27 am
Wendell
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@bobwesterman?ÿ

It could be a browser caching thing. After you changed your timezone, you might have to clear your browser's cache. Maybe. 😉

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 11:31 am
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I often ignore threads with multiple pages as following the order of comments is difficult. The data is there but I can't see well enough to read it (can't type for crap either, different post). Simplified would be great if you can still easily specify who you are responding to..

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 12:07 pm
Wendell
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@thebionicman?ÿ

Indeed, in simplified format you would still be able to reply just as I have done here, with a reference to the person you are replying to.

You can also quote, if you want to clarify exactly what you are replying to.

So, essentially, all of the normal functionality is there except for the nested replies. Everything is just displayed in order of date without any other replies being inserted at various places throughout the threads.

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 12:11 pm
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When (if) we return to the simplified approach (which I think I will prefer), will it be somehow clear when a new reply at the bottom of the list is actually responding to a post further up the list?

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 12:14 pm
Wendell
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@brad-ott?ÿ

Yes. You will still be able to reply and it will appear like this reply, just not nested as it is here.

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 12:15 pm
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Posted by: @brad-ott

When (if) we return to the simplified approach (which I think I will prefer), will it be somehow clear when a new reply at the bottom of the list is actually responding to a post further up the list?

You will also still be able to quote and it will appear like this reply.

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 12:16 pm
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@wendell which I suppose I can truly test later after someone else repliesƒ??thanks pal. ?ÿToo bad the money you earn with your efforts will never match the effort you put in. ?ÿHopefully the love and appreciation comes closer.

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Posted : October 2, 2021 12:19 pm
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@wendell Roger that. ?ÿExcellent.

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 12:20 pm
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