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Hello,

I got an excessive tilt message using our R10. Reviewed the ebubble and found that it was off but had been calibrated. I set up the robot and rotated the pole 360 watching for plumb with respect to the level bubble on the rod. The rod may be out a 1/16 from top to bottom if that and the level bubble is well calibrated to the rod. The ebubble was showing that the R10 is still off...so I stepped through the calibration holding the rod and level bubble. Took the r10 put it on a tripod/tribrach and rotated it through for the magnetometer. Checked the styles for compensating shots and tested it...receiving consistent .03 same direction. Any ideas or info about the r10, how often you calibrate the ebubble, trouble with ebubbles, accuracacy accepted,whether you use the compensate shots, what your parameters are set to, any advice along these lines would be appreciated...Thanks, Paul


 
Posted : September 6, 2015 7:11 pm
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Any chance it is basic slop in your adaptors or quick-connects ? I would just turn ebubble off. If you are confident your pole is in adjustment, the ebubble isn't helping anything, except to compensate for a non existant error. It's a time waste to cycle through error messages.
I think I would lie to it. Run your adjustment routine at a rod height of say four meters, then recheck the routine again at a standard two meters.


 
Posted : September 7, 2015 12:17 pm
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R.J. Schneider, post: 335439, member: 409 wrote: Any chance it is basic slop in your adaptors or quick-connects ? I would just turn ebubble off. If you are confident your pole is in adjustment, the ebubble isn't helping anything, except to compensate for a non existant error. It's a time waste to cycle through error messages.
I think I would lie to it. Run your adjustment routine at a rod height of say four meters, then recheck the routine again at a standard two meters.

Thanks RJ, tried different adaptors and quick-connects, good idea about backin in to it.....got tired of it so I called the dealership and luckily its still under warranty. It was a firmware issue, we'll see what happens. Hey thanks again, Paul


 
Posted : September 9, 2015 7:25 pm
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In terms of how often you need to calibrate: once a month.

The eBubble is valuable in two regards; you can maintain your focus on the screen and tilt auto-measure is an awesome feature when doing topo.

If there are any other R10 owners out there, be sure you're running at least firmware version 4.9x


 
Posted : September 11, 2015 8:55 pm
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There are three calibrations - the first one is the tilt sensor (accelerometers), the other two are the magnetometers. All three have to be tight for compensated points to be good, and it's hard to get good magnetometer calibrations around any king of magnetic or electromagnetic fields, such as power lines. Access gives you some good reliability values on compensated points.

The tilt sensor alone will give you good QC data and also enables the tilt automeasure function, which for topo surveys is awesome. I try to make sure we calibrate the tilt sensors on tripods with calibrated tribrachs, the tilt values are only as good as whatever they were calibrated on.


 
Posted : September 12, 2015 1:44 pm

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SurveyAK, post: 336164, member: 9968 wrote: In terms of how often you need to calibrate: once a month.

The eBubble is valuable in two regards; you can maintain your focus on the screen and tilt auto-measure is an awesome feature when doing topo.

If there are any other R10 owners out there, be sure you're running at least firmware version 4.9x

Thanks SurveyAk....I'll try it, they reinstalled the firmware, we'll see what happens, Thanks


 
Posted : September 13, 2015 7:05 pm
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Lee D, post: 336190, member: 7971 wrote: There are three calibrations - the first one is the tilt sensor (accelerometers), the other two are the magnetometers. All three have to be tight for compensated points to be good, and it's hard to get good magnetometer calibrations around any king of magnetic or electromagnetic fields, such as power lines. Access gives you some good reliability values on compensated points.

The tilt sensor alone will give you good QC data and also enables the tilt automeasure function, which for topo surveys is awesome. I try to make sure we calibrate the tilt sensors on tripods with calibrated tribrachs, the tilt values are only as good as whatever they were calibrated on.

Hello Lee,
I calibrated the first two settings on the pole I use, the last on a tripod and tribrach...are you saying to do all three on the tribrach? Thanks Again, Paul


 
Posted : September 13, 2015 7:07 pm
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I do the tilt and the horizontal rotation for the mags on a tribrach with a rotating adapter. The vertical rotation you pretty much have to do in your hands.


 
Posted : September 14, 2015 12:32 pm
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I somehow thought halving the errors would be the fix for that.


 
Posted : September 15, 2015 5:21 am