I live near Glenwood, which is in Pike County Arkansas.
Where would I find the old RR plans, for a RR built in 1907-1930?
It was Gurdon Fort Smith RR in 1907
It was later sold to MO PAC, or Missouri Pacific RR
Now it is Caddo Valley Railroad.
I need plans, for the R/W, as it passes through Glenwood, and Caddo Gap and other areas.
Does anybody know how and where to find such a thing?
It seems it would be HANDY if the AHTD stored them, in digital format, because they have some interest in the subject, and they already have scanners, and such.
But, they say they don't.
Also, how does the title revert back to landowners? Tracks have been REMOVED, and sold for scrap.
Any info would be appreciated.
Nate
Google this: Gurdon Fort Smith RR valuation maps
Looks like Arkansas State Archives has them. https://digitalheritage.arkansas.gov/inventories-maps/4067/
The hard part will be getting copies
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Thank you. @ ARS Mine Surveyor
I was picking all over that site, earlier today, but did not find it.
I called them, I can go to Little Rock, and see a HARD copy of it.
What a deal!
Nate
see a HARD copy of it
Will they let you take photographs of it?
If yes, confirm that in writing via email with some official so you can print out the written email and take that with you.
There was a speaker at one of the Arkansas Surveyors Conventions about 8 years ago, when the convention was at the 4H Center in Little Rock. That speaker was a railroad surveyor and referenced a few places that to look for railroad documents that weren't available at the local courthouse. If my memory is serving me correctly, you were at that convention. I remember seeing you there with a couple of your boys, in the vendor setup area talking to the Javad rep.
Maybe Amber has his contact information or a copy of his presentation. It would be worth making the call.
RR ROW reversion is tricky. No one answer covers all.?ÿ
This site lists the Gurdon and Fort Smith, 1900-1909, and the Gurdon and Fort Smith Northern, 1905-1909--
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_Arkansas_railroads
It says both were absorbed into the St. Louis, Iron Mountain and Southern, which (per Wikipedia) was merged with the Missouri Pacific in 1917. The Missouri Pacific in turn was absorbed by the Union Pacific in 1982.
I've never dealt with the UP, and haven't done much railroad research generally, but here's a web page relating to their real estate--
Will they let you take photographs of it?
They said NO pic of it. Well, ok, Can I get a copy? yes. 8.5x11. How can I read that?
IT seems I can get a BIGGER copy for some 25$ OK, why should I come in, I'll send you a check....
They really don't understand me, and I don't understand them. Kinda like the girl at the boat dock, who "Has to ask her manager..." but only can read?ÿ and Pepsi, and Mt. Dew, and gives a blank stare, when I say COKE!!
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N
A single strip map may be thirty feet long.?ÿ Maybe longer than that.?ÿ Never measured one.
Narrowing down to what you need for your current task may still be five feet long by 30 inches wide.?ÿ A bunch of quick snaps with the phone camera is the way to go.?ÿ Sometimes just looking it over tells you what you need to know, such as no ties to found survey monuments at section corners and/or center corner.
