Wanted: Distomat 13S mount for new style Wild T16

Something like this??

For some unknown reason the pieces in the image above have been sitting in a drawer here more than two decades, so I suppose I could part with them.

The telescope adapter was usually sold in a kit that also included the focusing-sleeve extension, but it appears your theodolite already has that.

Also, does your Wild DI3S have the correct counterweight? From what I can determine from the "Instructions for Use" booklet, the later-series T1 and T16 need a GGD4 counterweight (has a numeral "4" on the inside of the attachment bracket). I have a couple of those counterweights here as well.

GB

Something like this??

Dear Glenn,

That looks like the beast! The Distomat 13S has the counterweight already built into the device and it does not appear to be adjustable. I was answering a direct email from Larry H just before you posted and he wants to trade for the mount on my gun if his mount fits. I am delighted that there are possibly two of the mounts available. What do you want for your mount and screws?

Thanks, TimH

EDITED TO ADD: I just got the EDM out an looked. The counterweight on the meter does not have any numbers on it so I can't tell if it is the correct one. It can be taken off of the mounting arm. So, I guess I need a counterweight too! Thanks!

EDITED AGAIN.. Do you have a copy of the instructions? I would love to get a xerox copy of it too!

Something like this??

glenn, i may be in the market for one of those counterweights. i will be dropping it on a t3000 (if it can be resurrected), so it has to be the alternate design, though. could you post a photo or two?

Tim,
I purchased a mounting bracket for Wild Distomat on E-bay back in April.

It was purchased from
Form Cutter Specialties
15224 SE 296th Street
Kent, WA 98042-4528
Phone 253-631-7440

I got the bracket to install on a T3000 for using a DI2000, the bracket installed real easy. However the DI2000 I have the counterweight isn't correct for the T3000 instrument. The telescope on the T3000 does not allow the counterweight to be installed. It requires a different counterweight, I haven't got around to trying to find the correct counterweight. The DI2000 I have does fit a T2000 instrument that I own.

You can do a search on E-bay:

search Hard to Find Mounting Shoe for Leica/Wild Distomat

I just ran the search and they are still selling the item and the buy it now is $74.00, don't think they are running it as an auction. Take a look at the photograph. The shoe looks just like the one on the T2000 I have.

Jerry

Wild GGD4 counterweights

Hi Eddie -

The counterweights look like this:

Note the numeral "4" on the inside of the attachment arm.

I have not found the mounting screws for these counterweights.

Like some of the girls a feller might meet down at the dance hall, they're heavier than they look - 881 grams.

These counterweights were used when mounting the Wild DI3, DI3S, DI4, DI4L, and DI5 EDMs on the new-series Wild T1 and T16 theodolites. I doubt they would be correct for the Wild DI3000, but I have nothing in print to support that.

GB

Wild GGD4 counterweights

Jerry,

I have one of the Form Cutter Specialties mounts in hand. I contacted Kevin Foley and he sent me one on faith that I would pay him or return it if the mount didn't fit. Unfortunately, the mount he has is made with the hole for the multipin plug between the front screws. They had to move the front screw holes laterally in order to make space for this plug, so only two back screw holes line up. I called him and told him that the part didn't fit, I asked him if he would consider making the other part and he said that he would if he could get a mount to copy. I plan to put a few bucks in the package to cover the cost of him shipping me the part (Thanks Kevin F!). I then posted my request for the part on this board and am very gratified by the responses.

Glenn,
My Distomat 13S counterbalance does not have any numbers on it. I took the mount off and it weighs about 750 grams. It is that delightful orange color to boot! It looks very similar to the counterweights in you photos above. Looks like I need one of your counterweights. Thank you for offering to scan you Distomat instruction book into .pdf files and send it to me.

TimH

Wild GGD4 counterweights

glenn, i am looking at putting a DI4L on a t3000, and the counterweight cylinder just isn't far enough away from the edm body to fit around the telescope. wild made a different counterweight for the t3000, i believe

Wild DI3S Instructions for Use

I have scanned the subject booklet to PDF and sent download instructions to TimH.

If anyone else wants/needs this PDF please send me a message by clicking the email link by my name.

GB

Wild GGD4 counterweights

Hi Eddie -

Sorry - you wrote T3000 and I misread it as DI3000. Hate it when that happens!:-$

I saw a pic of a Wild T3000 theodolite earlier today when I was digging through some stuff and it does appear to have some sort of block or boss on the telescope that would likely require a special counterweight for the Distomat.

GB

Wild GGD4 counterweights

> Hi Eddie -
>
> Sorry - you wrote T3000 and I misread it as DI3000. Hate it when that happens!:-$
>
> I saw a pic of a Wild T3000 theodolite earlier today when I was digging through some stuff and it does appear to have some sort of block or boss on the telescope that would likely require a special counterweight for the Distomat.
>
> GB

exactly, the counterwight is simply rectangular for the t3000. not the one with the arm that reaches back and around the scope. i might just ask my machinist friend to fab one for me.

Got it all together!

I finally got all the pieces to mount the Distomat 13S to my new style Wild Heerbrugg T16 theodolite! I want to say Thank You to Glenn Borkenhagen for the number 4 counterweight and operating instructions, and Mike Helsel for trading the mount on my instrument for correct mount. I am making a donation to the web site since you all have been so helpful. I have two other JPEG images but htey were too large to load (2.06mb)

Got it all together!

That is one heck of an installation. Looks like the one in the PDF file that Glenn mentioned. Glad to see you got it all together. The big question is, does it function?

My problem right now is trying to get the stuff together to mate a DI2000 to a T2000S and a T3000. I have it mounted on a T2002 (small Telescope) and it is very functional. However the telescope on the T2000S and T3000 will not allow the DI2000 to be mounted because of the much larger telescope. I have some old manuals and it shows the DI2000 being mounted on the T3000 it has a couple of pictures showing the procedure. The T2000S manual shows no photographs and does not mention the DI2000 but it does mention a bunch of other DI EDMs and gives the counterweight GGD7 for all of them, it also gives a Brochure G1 337e for details of the installation. If anybody has access to that Brochure, I sure would love a copy. That does not mean that the DI2000 would be mentioned in the brochure but at least I could look at the installation and hope it would fit the DI2000.

Again your installation looks real neat and I know you are happy that it all came together after much looking and trying. I don't think your rig would be very field friendly if you had to occupy a bunch of points. Nice to look at and stand back and say I am glad that I don't have to use it in production.

Jerry M. Davis

Got it all together!

> I have two other JPEG images but htey were too large to load (2.06mb)

Tip: do a screen shot of the 2.06mb images and save as, then the new jpg should be small enough to upload.

Got it all together!

Jerry,

I have not decided yet how to get power to the device. I have the connector cable and a large (dead) NiCad battery. The "easy" way would be to cut the connector cable and solder on some alligator clips and use a 12 volt auto or motorcycle battery. Plan B is to re-cell the big NiCad battery and get an original charger (the cleanest solution). Plan C is to find or make a patch cable with battery clamps (the GOSH DARN Lemo plug is a real problem in making my own). Plan D is to add another (non-Lemo) plug to the control unit and make a patch cord. I hate the fact that Radio Shack is not longer int the parts business and I don't have an electronics store locally. DigiKey has Lemo plugs but I could not find the correct one for the power cords. I have a love-hate relationship with Lemo connectors- the ultimate lock out spec item to force you to use OEM replacement parts. We have an accredited sleep disorders center and use sleep diagnostic equipment that has Lemo plugs...did I mention how much I detest Lemo plugs? Any

I spent the morning reading the DI3S instruction manual. It is extremely helpful since the machine does things that I never would have expected or figured out on my own.

Yes, I know that this set up is not optimized for collecting large numbers of data points and would be a money loosing set up if I was doing this for a living. It dies get me EDM capability on a budget and will be used when I plan pond layouts on the farm! I think the older equipment is very interesting. I just purchased a Kern RK alidade from Glenn Borkenhagen and will be playing with this as well as a T2 and T3 theodolite. I have an irrational desire to learn now to make celestial and solar observations for identifying my position on the earth, realizing that I will never get as close as my Garmin hand held GPS. I can allegedly get 2 to 3 arc second accuracy determinations of latitude using an astrolabe attachment to the T2 theodolite (Still on the VERY steep part of the learning curve here). Soooo.... efficiency was not a systems goal, lol. Three months of post surgical non-weight bearing/marooned on the couch with internet access and mild OC tendencies can lead to all kinds of trouble....

I hope you get your counterweight problem figured out.

Got it all together!

Brad,
Thanks - still on the steep part of the curve on the screenshot cropping,lol.

Got it all together!

Opps, my bad. I purchased the Kern RK alidade from David Lee Ingram and not Glenn Borkenhagen. Both of you Gentlemen have been extremely helpful.

Thank You,
Tim Hiebert

TIMH

Looking through my treasures a few days ago, I found a bunch of Wild advertising brochures and sheets.

One of the sheets had a nice bit of information about the Wild DI3S. It is pictured with a Wild T1 new style.

Included in the bundle of Wild stuff was a Price List dated December 11, 1978. I must have picked up the stuff when I was looking around at new equipment in the 1979-1980 area. The price for the DI3S for a Wild T1 or Wild T16 was $13,231.00. That should make you feel good.

If you would like scans of the Wild stuff, just send me an e-mail with your e=mail
address and I'll send you some files.

Jerry M. Davis

Jerry,

I would love to have a copy of the information. Email sent

Thanks!
Tim H