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Anyone got one they want to sell for less than the $650 cost of a new one?
Or know of a decent alternative that costs less?
There is a no name copy on ebay for $150, but I wonder how good it is.
I know quality surveying equipment costs, but even by that yard stick, the GRZ101 is pricey for something the size of a boiled sweet!

 
Posted : December 9, 2013 10:48 am
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If you are running a Leica 1200 you might want to check to see if you really want one.
I thought I just read somewhere that the Leica 1200's are having trouble finding these prisms with Power Search.

Seco Mini 17.5mm Nodal works great for close in stake out.

 
Posted : December 9, 2013 11:32 am
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Yeah, thanks - I did read the thread about that issue. I sometimes use a 1200, but mostly a Sokkia SRX - and I use a 17.5 leica mini with it. The RC unit on the Sokkia is a pain for other reasons but I have no doubt it will find a GRZ101.

 
Posted : December 9, 2013 12:46 pm
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I guess it depends on what consists of "good enough" to you. With the Leica you get a bit more comfort level. We used to have six SECO mid qualities and two Leicas. The Leicas seemed to perform a little better, especially in terms of autolock collimation consistency, but the SECOs were probably good enough for 99 percent of projects.

In my experuence if you get a project requiring that level of precision, the possible profit margin should pay for a couple of top-of-the-line minis.

I should also say, though, that we had a couple of the cheaper minis, they definitely were not as consistent...I rhink they were CSTs

 
Posted : December 9, 2013 4:40 pm
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Also, keeping your scope and prisms clean mattered way more than any of the above.

 
Posted : December 9, 2013 4:42 pm
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Just to clarify - the GRZ101 is a mini 360 prism. I was not aware that Seco made something similar, though I could be wrong.

 
Posted : December 9, 2013 4:59 pm
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Gotcha, never used one of their mini 360s but they look nice. The full-sized Leica 360 is rather superior to the Trimble IMO.

 
Posted : December 9, 2013 6:22 pm
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> The full-sized Leica 360 is rather superior to the Trimble IMO.

It's also a heavy beast. I only use mine for wide-open dirt topo where I'll be ranging more than a few hundred feet from the gun. I mostly use a Leica mini (not 360) and just live with the pointing hassle.

 
Posted : December 9, 2013 7:30 pm
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I have the mini Grz101 which I never use but if a nice industrial bolt job comes along for sure I will use the GRZ101 for it has the best 360 centering possibly due to its small size.

I had the full size prism the GRZ122 and returned it For
a Leica MPR122 360 a little smaller/lighter and a hell of a lot tougher than the Grz122 5/8 thread top and bottom

The MPR 122 follow seems better and over all a better looking unit and about half way in size +-+- between the GRZ101 and GRZ122. The centering as not dependent on pointing arrows on top like the GRZ122

Peter K

 
Posted : December 9, 2013 8:12 pm