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(@yswami)
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Aloha, I am a novice when it comes to surveying. I have many questions that probably very, very basic. I noticed questions posted on the forum are from PLS to another PLS--very complicated subjects at times. Many of them I have no idea what it is being discussed. I do enjoy some of the funny comments. I am still reading books and asking questions to couple of local surveyors who are willing to share their experience and knowledge. But I didn't want to bother them to often.

Will it be acceptable for me to post some of fundamental and basic question in the Education/Training? Just wanted to get a feel for it--what kind respond I should aspect. I just love the subject, the precision required, the tenacity, research and being outside in the fresh air. When I found an old property corner pipe it felt like I found an ancient hidden treasure. My brother monks were laughing because I couldn't stop talking about it.

Thank you!

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 1:28 pm
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Ask away

We ALL were ignorant at one time or another. Some of the responses MAY be a little snide, but most will go out of their way to give you an answer.

Andy

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 1:37 pm
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YSWAMI,

Not REAL sure about this.

I am still trying to grasp the idea of monks with computers surfing the WEB.

Course, I will grant you, I am OLD!! 😀

LOL

Geezer

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 1:49 pm
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Welcome and Please ask any questions you need guidance on. Don't forget the search function is a powerful tool to start with as many topics have been discussed a few times over.

Cheers

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 1:49 pm
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Ask away

Thank you!

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 1:52 pm
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Thank you!
When a monk joint the order he get his robes, his beads, his macbook pro and iphone 😀
We are self-sufficient monks. We do worship, services, prayers, gardening, landscaping, maintenance etc. you name it. Simple Surveying included. In fact, we just installed a solar system on our own with guidance of licensed electrician of course.

see more at www.gududeva.org

The older you are, more knowledge you posses that we can tap into! Thanks

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 1:58 pm
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These folks will be happy to help even with the seemingly stupidest of questions. Even you are truly hanging out with monks you should already know that the stupidest question is the one not asked.
I fell upon these folks about 10 years ago while doing a carpenter job for a retired surveyor. He wanted a web site and so I built one and announced it not knowing if that was appropriate or not. I was immediately welcomed. Being a mathematician and software engineer for the previous 20 or so years I became curious about it. Next thing I know I wrote some specialized programs for some of these folks. Not long after that I get offered a job at an engineering-surveying firm. I took it not knowing a dam thing about it.

The water is warm. Jump on in. Be not afraid.
E.

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 2:06 pm
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What kind of simple surveying does the Monastery do that requires a robotic survey system?

I'm curious, are there elaborate flower beds and gardens that require lay-out for construction?

I take it your surveying experience must have been developed during a prior occupation? Sounds like you are not completely in the dark.

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 2:09 pm
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Thanks BigE:
Nice testimony. The knowledge will be very useful for the monastery particularly keeping a good topographical data of the monastery grounds. Each monk are encourage to develop certain skills then pass it on to next generation of monks. We have several of senior monks who are an excellent wood workers.
The replies are very encouraging!

Thanks again!

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 2:11 pm
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yswami,

No Q is too big or too small..... I too started chatting online on the original survey chat board over a decade ago and have learned much about surveying and better still as a result of chatting, personally met many contributors in my travels.

I have also had visits here in OZ, including one Hawaiian registered surveyor, Daniel Berg, from Keaau, Hawaii. Having first met Dan in Santa Barbara !

Just remember ...

We all started with no knowledge....

that an ex-spert is a drip under pressure...

RADU

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 2:18 pm
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> What kind of simple surveying does the Monastery do that requires a $38,000 robotic survey system?
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> I'm curious, are there elaborate flower beds and gardens that require lay-out for construction?
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> I take it your surveying experience must have been developed during a prior occupation? Sounds like you are not completely in the dark.

We have 372 acres of land. We use it for fence installations, construction layout, tree planting (new and recording existing), record of utility etc. We can't afford 38K! It was purchased on ebay a year ago for 8K (complete set ready to work).
Started to learn about a year ago from scratch as a monk. Fortunate enough to have one surveyor who did a job for the monastery allowed me to tag along to help him. After seeing the enthusiasm he actually came to the monastery several times just to show me some of the techniques. He trained me with some basics and learning the rest from books and this forum. He is no longer available.

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 2:20 pm
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Big E great to read you and your advice. Only seems like yesterday that you bumbled your way into POB and become a POB friend of all.

RADU

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 2:21 pm
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Thanks!

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 2:25 pm
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I was going to say it sounds like a very comfortable type of surveying, but then again 372 acres on your island can mean some very dense jungle and very steep hillsides. I visited when I was younger and I remember how wet and dense the vegetation was.

I didn't notice it while I was there, but when I returned home. I realized that time passed very slowly in Kauai. Everyone had a much more laid back attitude.

Not many people keep such detailed records of their estate.

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 2:33 pm
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RADU- Wisdom and knowledge sharing

Hey Mate!!!!!
Long time no hear!
I did bumble into this stuff didn't I. But, took right to it.

Do you remember any of Skype contact info for me?
I have a new machine and don't have Skype yet.
E

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 3:02 pm
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Suggestion: Get a copy of some software, that allows you to do basic Coordinate Geometry, and is pretty simple. Make sure it does graphics on the screen. I like Carlson Software, with autocad engine. But it is somewhere in the $1500 a copy range. I don't know what the latest version will cost, but that is about what I paid for mine.

Then, go get a copy of the church property deed, and attempt to enter it into the software. Then, go to the courthouse, and get ALL the adjoining deeds, and plot it all together. You will learn about "Rotate your bearings", and all kinds of stuff in this process.

If you get hung up, well ask for help. Keep your little motor going, and don't get discouraged. You will learn. Alot.

Ask a surveyor to come by and help, if you get all wadded up!

Nate

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 3:10 pm
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RADU- Wisdom and knowledge sharing

Big E are you on face book, then PM your skype name.....

or send email though SC....

Just got new laptop as XP fast not coping with many sites. It is Oz made, with numerical keyboard on RHS with W 7 as overseas models all now W 8 and I wanted nearer XP than the graphic interface in W8 and have just uploaded skype to chat with grandson in Sydney.

RADU

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 3:16 pm
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Absolutely! Please ask away. Also, did you need to brush up on spherical trigonometry to get your solar system to work? 😉

Andy

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 3:56 pm
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Ask away

> We ALL were ignorant at one time or another. Some of the responses MAY be a little snide, but most will go out of their way to give you an answer.
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> Andy

I'd say that most of the posters who get snide responses come here with a preconceived idea of what surveyors do, and start out already thinking they know it all. I think I read somewhere... As you sow, so shall you reap. maybe that was a tattoo somewhere.??/ 😉

 
Posted : July 24, 2013 4:00 pm
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Have you applied for a subscription to all the free surveying and engineering magazines?

 
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