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that somebody doing an ALTA of a $200 million, 25 story office tower in downtown houston might want to plot all 29 of the plottable easements that run over and across the tract. instead of the, oh, 12 or 13 they did actually get around to showing.

then again, you'd might also think that doing sub work for back&clork wouldn't be a winning business proposition...

 
Posted : April 27, 2017 6:41 am
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This made me check to see how many floors the building I did was working on. It's not 25, by the way.

Keep on ranting!

 
Posted : April 27, 2017 7:23 am
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But....but....but....you can't read them unless we change the scale to make a wall-sized plat that nobody wants to try to fold down to put in some file folder...................

 
Posted : April 27, 2017 8:58 am
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Holy Cow, post: 425721, member: 50 wrote: But....but....but....you can't read them unless we change the scale to make a wall-sized plat that nobody wants to try to fold down to put in some file folder...................

this thing is a nightmare over years' time. there is, in fact, one easement that 110 pages of 20' scale panels- each one being utterly useless on its own. and i still can't figure out any rhyme or reason to the way the mosaic of sheets was organized.

but hey... if you're grab for those back&clork jobs, i reckon you have to eat one every once in a while. this is definitely a once in a while.

 
Posted : April 27, 2017 9:08 am
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnndddd, just got done with an even better one.

this one was closer to home.

guys plats it. replats it. writes about 8 easements over and across it. they build it. order a final for title.

we issue title. except to all his documents.

"does not affect" on 6 of them.

whatever i may or may not have ever smoked- it clearly never was as good as this dude's stuff.

 
Posted : April 27, 2017 12:51 pm
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flyin solo, post: 425688, member: 8089 wrote: that somebody doing an ALTA of a $200 million, 25 story office tower in downtown houston might want to plot all 29 of the plottable easements that run over and across the tract. instead of the, oh, 12 or 13 they did actually get around to showing.

then again, you'd might also think that doing sub work for back&clork wouldn't be a winning business proposition...

Dirt the Plain Red Pirates from Oklahoma strike again?

 
Posted : April 27, 2017 1:07 pm
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paden cash, post: 425781, member: 20 wrote: Dirt the Plain Red Pirates from Oklahoma strike again?

actually it was a company whose google-listed address puts them within 5 miles of the site.

i've often wondered what the thought process is wherein you decide to take 65 cents on the dollar to do work for a company that bids jobs at 25 cents on the dollar to begin with, and also has the worst reputation possible among licensed practitioners in your chosen field.

i guess the results are in no way surprising in light of that, but jeez... the ulcers i'd have just driving home every day from turning out that kind of crap.

 
Posted : April 27, 2017 1:14 pm
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[SARCASM]Which floors were affected ?[/SARCASM]

 
Posted : April 28, 2017 12:57 pm
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[SARCASM]Which floors were missing easements ?[/SARCASM]

 
Posted : April 29, 2017 9:36 am
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flyin solo, post: 425722, member: 8089 wrote: if you're grab for those back&clork jobs, i reckon you have to eat one every once in a while. this is definitely a once in a while.

But is it the surveyor who will eat it or the title company? If the easements were not listed on the title report then it's the title company. If they were on the title report and not accounted for on the survey I have to wonder how that slipped by title company inspection.

 
Posted : April 29, 2017 9:42 am
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Mark Mayer, post: 426063, member: 424 wrote: But is it the surveyor who will eat it or the title company? If the easements were not listed on the title report then it's the title company. If they were on the title report and not accounted for on the survey I have to wonder how that slipped by title company inspection.

They're on schedule B. Damndest thing- not like they just went halfway through and stopped (as if a page of the commitment were missing or something), more like 10a-10f were addressed, then every third one after that.

 
Posted : April 29, 2017 12:17 pm
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flyin solo, post: 426104, member: 8089 wrote: They're on schedule B.

Do you have the same title report that the other surveyor had?

 
Posted : April 29, 2017 1:05 pm
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Mark Mayer, post: 426109, member: 424 wrote: Do you have the same title report that the other surveyor had?

We provided it to him.

 
Posted : April 29, 2017 1:25 pm
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flyin solo, post: 425722, member: 8089 wrote: this thing is a nightmare over years' time. there is, in fact, one easement that 110 pages of 20' scale panels- each one being utterly useless on its own.

Yeah, the lazy habit of just producing a map kit of patchwork pieces from which a person might in theory be able to assemble some sort of map is annoying and more or less equivalent to writing the description itself in Esperanto. Usually, there is an engineering firm involved in such productions, because most surveyors would know better having had to actually try to make sense of such things themselves.

 
Posted : April 29, 2017 4:31 pm
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so one thing i am privy to in this job is the surveyors' invoices. (as well as the attorneys, enviros, etc)

now here we are, 3 weeks later. i've kicked the survey back 6 times for failing to address comments (mainly, the failure to show or address two HPT line easements that bisect the property).

so, 158 million dollar loan policy. over 3 dozens title exceptions on the commitment. a veritable spaghetti bowl of easements to deal with. anyone venture a guess as to the fee charged for the ALTA?

 
Posted : May 12, 2017 10:44 am
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flyin solo, post: 428069, member: 8089 wrote: so one thing i am privy to in this job is the surveyors' invoices. (as well as the attorneys, enviros, etc)

now here we are, 3 weeks later. i've kicked the survey back 6 times for failing to address comments (mainly, the failure to show or address two HPT line easements that bisect the property).

so, 158 million dollar loan policy. over 3 dozens title exceptions on the commitment. a veritable spaghetti bowl of easements to deal with. anyone venture a guess as to the fee charged for the ALTA?

The nice part of multi State Licensure is the cool ideas you get from other states.
In Nevada if the map is submitted three times and still deficient you turn it over to the Board. Problem solved...

 
Posted : May 12, 2017 10:59 am
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I don't think that's Downtown Houston there. From the looks of it that's either the Energy Corridor or Sugarland, that architecture smacks of the recent boom.
Looks like a N/S road with three lanes dedicated to one way travel, so my guess is the Sugarland area.

 
Posted : May 12, 2017 11:09 am
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R.J. Schneider, post: 428076, member: 409 wrote: I don't think that's Downtown Houston there. From the looks of it that's either the Energy Corridor or Sugarland, that architecture smacks of the recent boom.
Looks like a N/S road with three lanes dedicated to one way travel, so my guess is the Sugarland area.

yes, forgive me- from my infrequent trips through houston (including a week ago), everything between Katy and Baytown qualifies as downtown. relative to somebody coming from a town of only a couple million or so people. 😉

it's actually up near klein, that's the tomball feeder road.

 
Posted : May 12, 2017 11:31 am
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$899.95 my friend. :cool::cool::cool:

Silly people do silly things..........................or so the big boys say.

 
Posted : May 12, 2017 11:34 am
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you're closer than you probably think.

 
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