I was driving down a long exit ramp this morning and the "official" black and white sign said "SPEED LIMIT 55" at the beginning of the ramp. But every couple hundred yards, with all the spirals and curves, there was a yellow and black sign with a different MPH on it.
As I explained to the officer, my thoughts were that the black and white sign was a legal requirement but all those yellow and black signs were the engineers stating, "hey we really had to squeeze these curves in so the safety factor is tight". Go easy.
But none of them specifically stated "speed limit" like the black and white one.
So, in the end a friendly goodbye and no ticket.
What really happened:
....As the officer approached the vehicle, he witnessed the driver aside the exit ramp, engine running....He said to the driver "License and Registration please; Do you know why I stopped you?" The driver appeared to be in a daze....
Scott looked up, mumbling....
"I don't know R, but X sub O would be equal to X sub A plus R sin A sub Z (AO) and also Y sub O equals Y sub A plus R cos A sub Z (AO)....But if A sub Z equals A sub Z and I don't know D sub P, I'm going to have to stake some more points....UHHH, yes Officer? Were you talking to me sir?"
The officer gave him a quizzical look and suggested that those yellow and black signs were there for a reason, and told him to have a nice day.:-D
If I understand correctly the yellow sign is recommended, not limited and is not a infraction to go over. If you are in an accident going over the recommended it is taken in to consideration and can contribute to a reckless driving or some such thing.
As explained to me by an old chainman of mine whose father was in law enforcement anyway.
Scott,
I take it you were in New Jersey?
I once got a written warning for doing 56 in a 55, with the officer complaining about "Youse PA drivers."
Paul in PA
In FL black and white are supposed to mean max speed limit, which is usually 30 mph slower than anyone drives, and yellow and black are "suggestions". 😉
Scott is correct.
Black & White = REGULATORY (black & white- get it)
Yellow & black = ADVISORY
Our governor has been reappropriating funds from the Bank of KDOT for so long to put in the general fund to pay for everything else that we are lucky to still have a few of the black and white signs left. No joke. If you are rich and don't want to pay income taxes, come be my neighbor. If you are the normal wage earner, you probably will pay far less elsewhere.
Rankin_File, post: 363176, member: 101 wrote: Scott is correct.
Black & White = REGULATORY (black & white- get it)
Yellow & black = ADVISORY
That is true in California except you can get cited for "speed unsafe for conditions."
Dave Karoly, post: 363183, member: 94 wrote: That is true in California except you can get cited for "speed unsafe for conditions."
Exactly. The MUTCD does list all of the white background with black text signs as "R" signs, indicating a regulatory sign. Violate that post and you can be cited. It shows the yellow background with black text signs as "W" signs, indicating a warning sign (I believe it is warning). This includes warnings for stop signs, traffic signals, speed bumps, winding roads, animal crossings, and recommended safe speeds for road conditions.
And, as Dave mentioned, driving what the citing officer feels is "unsafe for conditions" is grounds for a moving violation. However, it is a different vehicle code that speeding.
A man and his wife were driving through California, over the speed limit, when a CHP officer pulled him over.
He asked the driver for his license and registration.
The man's wife, who was hard of hearing, said, "What did he say?" The man told his wife the officer wanted to see his license and registration.
The officer told him he pulled him over for excessive speed.
The wife said, "What'd he say?" The man repeated that he was pulled over for excessive speed.
The officer said, "I see you're from Ohio. The worst sex I ever had was with a girl from Ohio!"
The wife, of course, said, "What'd he say?"
The husband said, "He says he thinks he knows you."