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CV-Nevada
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@olemanriver 

" Just swap dms for gons".  Mills actually.

Former 82C.  

 
Posted : June 15, 2023 12:21 pm
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Very true. 

 
Posted : June 15, 2023 12:23 pm
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@cv oh thats right. Gons. 82c. I worked on some missions with those guys.  We had fun.

 
Posted : June 15, 2023 12:25 pm
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@jflamm parts for what bad boys?  Are total stations used in the military, sure they are in MOS areas but GPS is highly used in live fire directioning these days.  I've had these discussions with my son in law.  He has been directing live fire for three years.  They even use electronics for trajectory and wind adjustment factors.

 
Posted : June 15, 2023 12:28 pm
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I can give a grid coordinate off a MGRS map within a 100m by eyeball. 

 
Posted : June 15, 2023 12:28 pm
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@jflamm parts for what bad boys?  Are total stations used in the military, sure they are in MOS areas but GPS is highly used in live fire directioning these days.  I've had these discussions with my son in law.  He has been directing live fire for three years.  They even use electronics for trajectory and wind adjustment factors.

Sorry, thought our conversation was only about drones. My sister procures parts for military drones. I’ve tried to get details but she can’t talk much about it. 

 

 
Posted : June 15, 2023 12:35 pm
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@chris-bouffard well its a different world for sure. Somewhere between the technology boom and when i returned to pvt sector a lot of knowledge was lost. We have some great crew chiefs. I have some very smart LS friends i have made in recent years. One of which gets blown away when i show him some little math tricks to speed up comps in field. He never had to do much of that except enough to pass the exams. We were drinking imagine that surveyors drinking. One of the true old timers was talking about how he had run a line. House topping he had just showed one of his crew chiefs. No math needed just the understanding of the concepts. Anyway my friend was like go over that again. I drew the picture on napkin how i would house top around a tree to stay on a line. I started thinking the robots today dont lock to plunge the scope and i could not release or lock the vernier to cheat so my calculator could stay in my pocket. Oh well maybe i will use all that i learned years ago again. I did use a plumb bob the other day. The old contractor saw me and said did you have to much coffee this morning. I laughed and said i am shaking like a squirrel sh!$$!&@ persimmons. Took me a few to get steady again.

 
Posted : June 15, 2023 12:36 pm
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@cv lol. I still have my grid square scale protractor. Love those things. Right and up right and up. If i had a penny for every-time i was told that. While in.

 
Posted : June 15, 2023 12:39 pm
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@olemanriver I can't remember the last time I hung a string or pulled a chain but the advantages of what we learned from those who came before us far outweigh a college education because we learned things in real world applications.  I had some great old school mentors when I was young and credit them 100% for me being able to pass the exam with 10 years of experience.

 
Posted : June 15, 2023 12:54 pm
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@chris-bouffard oh i am right with you. I look back and realize how much they taught me and mentored me. I had no clue of what the truly did until coming back to this side of the house. I mean as a rod man i man jr crew chief. Geezers. When i sat for the FS it was like falling off a bike it just somehow rushed back into my brain. And all that applied knowledge most definitely helped me pass.  I tell my boss now.  The mentoring in my belief is the best thing for the profession. It goes back to both the art and science of surveying. I will do what little i can for those around me teaching. But i don’t hold a candle to those that did it day in and day out for years. Those are the best and man look at what they accomplished.

 
Posted : June 15, 2023 1:03 pm
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Interesting timing.  Just this morning, I was surveying next to a guy who brought out copies of unrecorded survey plats (matched the deed descriptions well) and offered for me to take them with to copy.  I just took photos.

He told me about his time directing artillery in Korea.  Discussed mils and elevation changes and timing for multiple units.

 
Posted : June 15, 2023 2:34 pm
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If they draft me, the end is near.

 
Posted : June 15, 2023 6:32 pm
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