Paul D, post: 404120, member: 323 wrote: Plus, folks w southern accents don't know how to drive in the snow....
It's probably the same as folks from the North who don't know how to drive in sugar sand in the South. 😉
Paul D, post: 404120, member: 323 wrote: Saw this on reddit. Unsafe at any speed. Plus, folks w southern accents don't know how to drive in the snow....
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Well based on the "northern accented" drivers I've seen down south, I would guess the proper way to drive in the snow, would be to move all the way to the left lane, drive 20 mph under the posted speed limit and put my turn signal on 6 miles before I plan on turning. Just saying....
For those that work in or around traffic and have the need to close a lane on occasion, being a certified flagger would help with understanding proper lane closure techniques and also may help with liability if something happens. It's not that hard to do. It can be done online. On a road construction job, if I hold the stop sign for two minutes while the flagger runs to the porta-can, I have to be certified.
Paul D, post: 404120, member: 323 wrote: Saw this on reddit. Unsafe at any speed. Plus, folks w southern accents don't know how to drive in the snow....
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I agree, that's why we DON'T. If it snows we're smart enough to stay home.
Andy 
While Xfinity guys are a bunch of indifferent idiots IMHO, by far the biggest problem with just about everyone cresting that hill is they are driving way too fast for the conditions. Rule No. 1 for driving on snow and ice, especially if you don't have allwheel or 4 wheel drive, studded tires and ABS, is slow way the heck down and don't be in any rush. Most of those drivers seem to be just oblivious to the conditions.
Williwaw, post: 404275, member: 7066 wrote: ....Most of those drivers seem to be just oblivious to the conditions.
They probably were..and will continue to be as long as there are humans, cars and roads.
Working on highway projects for years taught me a lot about the travelling public. One project in particular was 4 miles of urban interstate which had, over the course of 2 years, over 100 separate lane funnels, closures and temporary lane delineation changes. We were lucky. There were only 3 fatalities in 2 years. The construction company's insurance representative that attended all the pre-work conferences had calculated a probability of 4.5 fatalities during the term of construction.
Blaming drivers for "being stupid", while holding a little truth, is not a responsible attitude while working with the traveling publics' lives. We worked closely with the State Troopers during all the lane closures and detours. It seemed as though it didn't matter how many advanced warning placards we had, folks would never see an obstacle until the last minute. One seasoned trooper said it so eloquently once. He asked everyone in a safety meeting, "Have any of you ever herded blind goats?" And explained how that mind set might help in an "active traffic control" situation. Over a two year period I realized his analogy was truly appropriate.
I took this picture today and then called in on them. They closed a lane so they would have a place to park while they spliced a fiber optic cable. The speed limit in this area is 75 right up to the sign in front of the van which traffic probably cannot see anyway. The weather was perfect but that does not make it right. At the back of the pickup is a county road. That's where they were parked an hour later when I came back through.
It's a new fiber connecting cell towers. About a month ago, one of the boring crews was stopped about 2 miles south of here in a 1 ton truck in the outside lane talking to someone on his crew. An 84 year old man came up behind him too close before realizing the truck was sitting still in the traffic lane. The elderly man jerked the wheel and lost control. He later died. The driver of the 1 ton left the scene but was later found in town. He was an illegal from Honduras and last I heard, he is still sitting in jail.
James
