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(@holy-cow)
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Read a newspaper story yesterday about a woman who is now 80 who came down with polio in 1953 at age 13.?ÿ The polio vaccine was not created until 1955.?ÿ I remember quite well getting a polio shot in about 1958 or 59.?ÿ Later came sugar cubes loaded with the vaccine that made it much more pleasant for the annual procedure.

She made many comments about the current pandemic and the need for everyone possible to take the vaccine as soon as possible.?ÿ Her life was changed dramatically due to her exposure to polio.?ÿ She completely lost the use of both legs shortly after being infected.?ÿ The story went on to mention what are described as post-polio effects.?ÿ With polio there was the initial physical problems that have followed them through life but for some polio victims as they age they develop a wide variety of other problems decades later.?ÿ I know such a victim who lived a nearly normal life having only been affected by not being able to turn her head from side to side to the same extent as almost everyone else.?ÿ It was not noticeable.?ÿ Now, at age 65, she lives with her sister's family as she has lost the ability to do a wide range of things she could do normally over the decades.

We have no idea what those post-COVID effects may be.

 
Posted : December 30, 2020 8:39 am
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@lurker?ÿ Well not being a doctor or researcher ... Take a look at the commercials on tv from class-action lawyers wanting to sue Big Pharmacy for drugs that were issued/approved by FDA.?ÿ It makes me wonder if these drugs were "rushed" into distribution ??ÿ ?ÿ Then you have the advertisements for "new" drugs that will improve your life ... BUT, they spend most of the commercial time talking about the known side effects.

Call me a skeptic, but I limit my drug intake to BC Powders?ÿ ?ÿ

 
Posted : December 30, 2020 4:49 pm
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@jitterboogie

What's wrong with a doc that gives you the truth (at least, as he knows it)?

 
Posted : December 31, 2020 3:35 am
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Posted by: @murphy

...nobody in the public sphere seems to be pushing Americans to make healthier life decisions.

I don't necessarily agree with this part of your statement.?ÿ

I have health insurance through United HealthCare and they regularly send me offers to partake in "free" (although nothing is really "free" with health care or insurance companies) weight loss and exercise programs that they offer.?ÿ I generally see other insurance firms offering the same.?ÿ

Is this a Colorado thing only??ÿ I will admit to being ignorant to that answer.

 
Posted : December 31, 2020 3:43 am
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Posted by: @jitterboogie

SWMBOAWD

What does this acronym mean?

I am such a Boomer....

 
Posted : December 31, 2020 3:48 am
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SWMBO - She who must be obeyed. Yer main squeeze. ƒ??AWDƒ? must mean somebodyƒ??s main squeeze has all wheel drive. (around here nothingƒ??s impossible).?ÿ?????ÿ

 
Posted : December 31, 2020 4:17 am
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Well, yes.?ÿ Google gave me this answer and it doesn't make sense to me.?ÿ How are a SWMBO and an AWD related when put together as a single acronym?

Inquiring minds want to know - especially since I read it on 2 different threads this morning....

 
Posted : December 31, 2020 5:15 am
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Fair.?ÿ I'm being critical, as in March, to tell a patient that had recently suffered a Pulmonary Embolism, and with the severe lack of understanding of the disease process of SARsCOVID19 then, that you have a 25% of dying from that, it seems like an easy deflection of a more difficult discussion. Mind you, we're just getting a quick glimpse of this patient doctor relationship, and I am making a HUGE critical assumption.?ÿ Sorry for hijacking and nearly violating your HIPPA rights EddyCreek,although you did share that anecdotal story here in a safe setting of respectful discussion.

 
Posted : December 31, 2020 5:54 am
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And worshiped daily

 
Posted : December 31, 2020 5:55 am
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I live in NC, a state that is usually listed as the worst in the nation in health insurance.?ÿ I have never received anything concerning free exercise programs.?ÿ The point of my rant was that five minutes before Covid everyone on Earth hated the evil, lying, blood-sucking pharmaceutical companies.?ÿ Now, however, if a person even mentions that they are concerned that the vaccine has not been monitored for long term side-effects, said person is labeled an "anti-vaxxer".?ÿ?ÿ

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Posted : January 1, 2021 3:25 am
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Two days ago I called a guy I last worked with over 30 years ago to offer my condolences.?ÿ His wife got Covid, first just a little cough but two days later she had trouble breathing so he took her to the ER.?ÿ They checked her out and immediately admitted her to the hospital.?ÿ She was on a ventilator for 22 days, and the next time he got to see her after dropping her off was when they pulled the plug (he said they had him dressed up in a space suit for the occasion).

He got it a few days after she did, no inkling of the onset until he passed out in the bathroom and had to crawl to his phone to have his son take him to the ER.?ÿ He's on the mend, slowly.?ÿ Generally okay during the day, but symptoms return at night.

It's ugly stuff.

 
Posted : January 1, 2021 11:34 am
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The two most important women in my life both received their first dose of the vaccine on 12/30/20. Both are doing fine and only have mild soreness around the injection site. One?ÿof them is my 94 year old Mother. The other is my wife, an RN who sees hundreds of patients a week.?ÿ

 
Posted : January 1, 2021 3:40 pm
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Nope... but I caught the bug.?ÿ Just like the flu.?ÿ I'm younger and doing good now.?ÿ

My MIL has been in the hospital since Nov 22nd.?ÿ She has a lung issues and Covid attacked her and my FIL struggled?ÿ but getting better now.?ÿ She is better but still working on getting off oxygen so she can come home.?ÿ Very difficult not able to be with her but we have constantly been texting and zooming with her.?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : January 1, 2021 7:01 pm
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That's what is so bizarre about this.?ÿ One person gets it and it's nothing more than a minor inconvenience for a couple of days.?ÿ Someone else gets it and is dead within a week or ten days.?ÿ My daughter's former sister-in-law, a very athletic woman in her early 40's, had it last February and March and was affected severely.?ÿ She has recovered to maybe 85 percent of her normal health.?ÿ She contracted it again recently.?ÿ This time it is almost nothing compared to the first time.

One thing to keep in mind is that the statistics are skewed on deaths as the payoff is better for the providers when it is declared a COVID-related death.?ÿ The daughter of one of Mrs. Cow's best friends lost her husband about three weeks ago at the age of only 27.?ÿ His death had nothing to do with this disease.?ÿ He had a lifelong issue with his heart.?ÿ That was what killed him in a matter of two or three days.?ÿ Upon arrival he was tested for COVID.?ÿ All tests were negative.?ÿ Within minutes following his death, the medical staff was observed by the widow running swabs up his nostrils for additional COVID testing.

 
Posted : January 1, 2021 8:12 pm
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@holy-cow

Oh yeah.?ÿ I don't deny its an issue and the Government definitely abused it to take advantage.?ÿ ?ÿI just try to keep my dependence on drugs minimal.?ÿ

 
Posted : January 1, 2021 8:20 pm
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Posted by: @holy-cow

the payoff is better for the providers when it is declared a COVID-related death

How does that work? Aren't they paid per service and not per diagnosis?

 
Posted : January 1, 2021 8:23 pm
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Posted by: @holy-cow
the statistics are skewed .

I've also read arguments that a congressman's death was not due to COVID because he died after surgery for a blood clot. But he had been diagnosed and treated for COVID and blood clots are a common complication of it. There was no mention of clotting problems before the diagnosis.

There is a lot of argument over how to count.

 
Posted : January 1, 2021 8:31 pm
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Can someone explain why perfectly healthy people get tested? If you test negative what is to prevent you from becoming positive 10 minutes later somewhere else? I donƒ??t understand the rationale behind this.

 
Posted : January 2, 2021 4:56 am
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It has been proven that some people can get the virus and become infectious to others while having no symptoms (asymptomatic).?ÿ Plenty of people have been tested simply because they were wanting to be certain they were fine prior to doing something they would not do if they had the virus, say visiting someone who is undergoing chemotherapy.?ÿ A significant percentage have discovered they are positive.

 
Posted : January 2, 2021 6:18 am
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@holy-cow

Ok, got it, how about this?

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Posted : January 2, 2021 7:07 am
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