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Is there in the Unites States a state (territories and possessions included) where P.E.s are still allowed to do property surveys?

Does every state have a Code of Ethics for Professional Surveyors whereby a Professional Surveyor must report to the Board of Registration another surveyor who is doing egregiously bad surveying or breaking laws?

If a Board of Registration investigates a complaint, what should they do?

Interview all parties?

Review field notes?

Hold a hearing with all parties present? What happens at the hearing? Is it a public heating? Can the press be present?

What else should they do?

 
Posted : April 3, 2024 5:41 am
holy-cow
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As to the PE doing property surveys question, the answer is a qualified 'yes'. It is clearly a 'yes" when the PE is also a PS or LS or PLS or RPLS (depending on location). All sorts of surveying conducted by the PE is legitimate, so long as surveying of the boundaries is not performed.

BTW, I am both.

 
Posted : April 3, 2024 6:03 am
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I don't know if there are still any PE licensees active who this applied to, but there were PEs who were grandfathered in as allowed to do boundary surveys when the registration of land surveyors was implemented in their state.

 
Posted : April 3, 2024 8:00 am
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Late 70's - Early 80's I worked for a PE who was grandfathered in. He wasn't a great surveyor, but he knew his limits and did OK.

More recently, a surveyer said "All PE's should be allowed to do surveying. They just have to pass the test. It isn't all that hard".

I asking all this without my real name as I'm involved with a situation where it's all relevant.

 
Posted : April 4, 2024 6:33 am
holy-cow
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A lot of this goes back to when the start of licensing of PE's began in your State and when the start of licensing of LS's began. The work done prior to licensing of surveyors was done by engineers or minions working for the engineers. The PLSS, for example, was not laid out by surveyors licensed in that State. Yet, that is the gospel we are to follow. In my area, nearly all the survey work was carried out by the County Engineer or his deputies, with his thorough review, until State licensing of surveyors was established.

I have known engineers from various disciplines (electrical, mechanical, civil, agricultural and chemical) who have been excellent surveyors during their time. I've known a few who tried to leverage the situation just to add another resource for income that couldn't survey at all. Or, maybe, it was just the level of alcohol consumption required to qualify as a surveyor that did them in.

 
Posted : April 4, 2024 8:19 am

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"I’ve known a few who tried to leverage the situation just to add another resource for income that couldn’t survey at all."

That may be what they say publicly, but we all know the real reason is that chicks dig surveyors.

 
Posted : April 4, 2024 10:36 pm