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Oklahoma rules regarding surface modeling for construction projects

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 adam
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I am curious how Oklahoma looks at 3d modeling for construction projects. North Carolina has rules stating models have to be built by a NC licensed engineer or surveyor. My brother in law has a small grading and construction company in OKC and is getting a GPS system for their use and asked if I could build models for him. Thoughts?

 
Posted : October 14, 2016 4:58 am
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Modelling is not specifically mentioned in the law. Nor is construction layout generally. In fact the language in the first sentence stresses the "land surveying" means "boundary surveying". Nevertheless your BIL is going to need local help to establish and maintain control.


TITLE 59. PROFESSIONS AND OCCUPATIONS
Chapter 10 - Engineering and Land Surveying

å¤ 475.2 ‰ÛÒ Definitions

7. a. "Practice of land surveying" means any service or work, the adequate performance of which involves the application of special knowledge of the principles of mathematics, methods of measurement, and the law for the determination and preservation of land boundaries. "Practice of land surveying" includes, without limitation:

(1) restoration and rehabilitation of corners and boundaries in the United States Public Land Survey System or the subdivision thereof,

(2) obtaining and evaluating evidence for the accurate determination of land boundaries,

(3) determination of the areas and elevations of land parcels for a survey,

(4) monumenting the subdivision of land parcels into smaller parcels and the preparation of the descriptions in connection therewith,

(5) measuring and platting underground mine workings,

(6) preparation of the control portions of geographic information systems and land information systems,

(7) establishment, restoration, and rehabilitation of land survey monuments and bench marks,

(8) preparation of land survey plats, condominium plats, monument records, and survey reports,

(9) surveying, monumenting, and platting of easements, and rights-of-way,

(10) measuring, locating, or establishing lines, angles, elevations, natural and man-made features in the air, on the surface of the earth, within underground workings, and on the beds of bodies of water for the purpose of determining areas and volumes for a survey,

(11) geodetic surveying, and

(12) any other activities incidental to and necessary for the adequate performance of the services described in this paragraph.

b. A person or entity shall be construed to practice or offer to practice land surveying, within the meaning and intent of Section 475.1 et seq. of this title who does any one of the following: practices any branch of the profession of land surveying; by verbal claim, sign, advertisement, letterhead, card or in any other way represents such person to be a professional land surveyor or through the use of some other title implies that such person or entity is a professional land surveyor or that such person is registered, licensed, or qualified under Section 475.1 et seq. of this title; represents qualifications or ability to perform; or who does practice land surveying.

 
Posted : October 14, 2016 5:46 am
 adam
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Thanks Norman, they have a surveyor they use for control and stakeout.

 
Posted : October 14, 2016 5:47 am
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Are you using this 3D model to establish elevations of the surface of the earth?

I'd say 3D modeling is an activity to establish elevations on the surface of the earth and 10) says that it falls under the Practice of land surveying.

Norman Oklahoma, post: 395158, member: 9981 wrote: 10) measuring, locating, or establishing lines, angles, elevations, natural and man-made features in the air, on the surface of the earth, within underground workings, and on the beds of bodies of water for the purpose of determining areas and volumes for a survey,

 
Posted : October 14, 2016 5:28 pm
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JKinAK, post: 395289, member: 7219 wrote: Are you using this 3D model to establish elevations of the surface of the earth?

I'd say 3D modeling is an activity to establish elevations on the surface of the earth and 10) says that it falls under the Practice of land surveying.

It sounds like he's 'building' a template surface of a 'proposed' surface for the gps controlled excavation and grading equipment. According to our 'enforcement' division at the BOR it is not surveying. There was some discussion a few years ago that someone could consider it engineering, but that fell by the way. If you're working off of project plans that were prepared by an engineer; and the actual layout of control on site is done by a surveyor, everything is copasetic. To me there is little difference (except for the screen time) between building 3d proposed templates and picking grades off hard-copy plans to "set up" a field book.

 
Posted : October 14, 2016 5:43 pm