I just went through the process to renew as inactive my PE license.?ÿ I can think of no possible reason I will ever need it and it's just an ego thing, but $20/year as inactive rather than lapsed isn't to0 bad.
The process has changed this year.?ÿ I had to register an account with the board and fill out several screens, wait for someone in the office to approve the connection of this account to my license number, get the approval email, log in againand go what felt like 35 screens (didn't count) to update contact info, request the application form, fill out the form, submit the form, and enter payment info.?ÿ Glad I didn't also have to submit PDF files of continuing education.
"I can think of no possible reason I will ever need it and it's just an ego thing, ...."
Same here. I've had a real estate license since 1981 and a Community Association Manager since 2000. Never used either one but I still keep them current.?ÿ
I let my Flight Instructor certificate expire because it was too much trouble and expense to renew.
Washington has a "retired" status that you can apply for. It is a simple form that is submitted and there are no fees or renewals. You can un-retire by paying fees and achieving 15 additional pdh.?ÿ
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Washington has a "retired" status that you can apply for. It is a simple form that is submitted and there are no fees or renewals. You can un-retire by paying fees and achieving 15 additional pdh.?ÿ
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California is more money hungry.
a change to Retired status requires a fee of about half of the normal (not inexpensive) renewal fee...
Then to reinstate you need to take all of the exams over again.
The alternate is to just go delinquent but the Board License index lists you as "DELINQUENT" or "CANCELLED"
I am mostly retired and have no plan of becoming "highly active" again in California, but something may come along that I really want to do. ... California gets me to continue to support their folly once again.
Yah, the pdf thing has many active guys scrambling.
Also, I don't want to say the website could not be less intuitive, but...
... I see an opportunity for the Wendell types.
Steve
I'm seeing more of this, where sometimes they're using a third party, "to make things easier".?ÿ For who?
I sent an email to the Mass BOR to change my address, and got an email back saying that I had to use their portal, which became a nightmare, and I gave up eventually.
The most expensive part for keeping my licenses (PE and LS) is the continuing ed.?ÿ I enjoy going to classes and conferences but it is expensive.?ÿ I view it as harassment to play the game.?ÿ All that goes on with getting and keeping a license goes WAY beyond protecting the public.?ÿ More like protecting current licenses and the bureaucracy issuing them.
Amen, Brother Leroy.
Continuing Ed is a racket.?ÿ Maybe not in all states yet, but it's coming.
It's seems like continuing ed is getting hobby practitioners with stale skill-sets to either tune up their skills (maybe not as much as we'd all like) or to get out of surveying.
Getting your license and then camping on your skill set for 10-20-30 years is a recipe for problems. Anyone staying current with technology and staying active in the profession won't have a problem meeting AK CE requirements.?ÿ
In AK - you don't have to take expensive on-line classes or PDH cruises - requirements can be met: "Completing or attending qualifying seminars, in-house workshops and professional or technical presentations;attendance at qualifying programs presented at technical or professional society meetings, conventions, or conferences; authoring published papers, articles or books; serving as an officer or actively participating in a committee of professional or technical societies; teaching a course for the first time (does not apply to full-time faculty)." (see?ÿ https://www.commerce.alaska.gov/web/portals/5/pub/CE_Instructions_Engineers.pdf)
Maybe CE regs suck in some states (I understand Florida is pretty persnickety) but in this neck of the woods I suspect that CE has done more to cull out unmotivated and unqualified individuals than any other law, regulation, or market force - that's a good thing.?ÿ
Your state's surveying community will determine what courses are offered and set in place to attend.
Use your voice and contact your BOR and State and Regional and Conference leaders with requests and suggestions about content and expectations for your efforts.
I enjoy new topics and new voices on old topics and historical education seminars.
It is always hopeful that something new will be learned and if you have an opportunity to be heard and to correct something being misunderstood makes a great day.
To meet and share with old classmates and other surveyors is always a good thing.
Dang it! ?ÿSorry about that, Brother Leon. ?ÿLeroy was a professor at Univ. of Missouri back in the day. ?ÿBrain farts are becoming more common.
It's seems like continuing ed is getting hobby practitioners with stale skill-sets to either tune up their skills (maybe not as much as we'd all like) or to get out of surveying.
Getting your license and then camping on your skill set for 10-20-30 years is a recipe for problems. Anyone staying current with technology and staying active in the profession won't have a problem meeting AK CE requirements.?ÿ
In AK - you don't have to take expensive on-line classes or PDH cruises - requirements can be met: "Completing or attending qualifying seminars, in-house workshops and professional or technical presentations;attendance at qualifying programs presented at technical or professional society meetings, conventions, or conferences; authoring published papers, articles or books; serving as an officer or actively participating in a committee of professional or technical societies; teaching a course for the first time (does not apply to full-time faculty)." (see?ÿ https://www.commerce.alaska.gov/web/portals/5/pub/CE_Instructions_Engineers.pdf)
Maybe CE regs suck in some states (I understand Florida is pretty persnickety) but in this neck of the woods I suspect that CE has done more to cull out unmotivated and unqualified individuals than any other law, regulation, or market force - that's a good thing.?ÿ
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It's been said before, those who want to stay current will do it, regardless of any CE requirements.?ÿ And those who don't care, will take seminars to fulfill the requirements, without really learning anything.
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Yes it is. It's tough to get good presenters and there are alot of scammers that just babble on about nothing worth remembering. I get more out of bar chats with fellow Surveyors than I do listening to the Carpet Bagger seminar presenters. Occasionally there will be a good presentation and 9 times out of 10 it will be a fellow Surveyor presenting a situation he ran into in real life.
