So you're saying it's more important for the bridge to match the centerline, storm sewer, sanitary sewer, right-of-way, sidewalks, inlet boxes, and ut...

> Are you thinking that the actual construction plans don't have bastardized coordinates on them?So what if they do, Kent? Have the operations of d...

What we have hee-yah....I have a deep and abiding respect for Kent's knowledge. I have an equally deep and abiding disgust for his intentional obfusca...

> > Are the NAD83 1993 coordinates grid?> > No, MM posted that they are bastardized DOT coordinates that have been scaled, apparently stil...

What we have hee-yah....> If someone proposes to establish NAD83(2011) control to a project that was designed based on NAD83(93) that will have the...

You and Kent share the same problem of not reading and distortion. MM never said there should be no checks.

I know my opinion of smoothing is atypical. I've seen over smoothing cause contour lines to cross or overlap boundaries so I avoid them.

> Checking means independently verifying the relative positions of the control points in the entire control network. That means you ... determine t...

Swap triangles? Sure. Manually draw? No. Smooth? No. The points are the points and the interpolation is the interpolation. It's a technical product. ...

> For god's sake yes it was. This has become so weird its almost insane stuff.:-(bahahaha!

+1not sure how else to say it

It's as though you don't read beyond the first paragraph. What part of relative tolerance and relative accuracy, which I already mentioned, escapes yo...

I'm kind of surprised at the confusion. There are numerous flavors of NAD83 even through the history of OPUS. Those various realizations vary. HARN d...

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same way here. if you have an abundance of existing control (as we do in HARN) it doesn't make a lot of sense to rock the boat with something new, jus...

wow. OPUS is good. Great actually. Starting a new project I would very likely begin the control with OPUS unless there were reasons to use something e...

Generally 2. I try to research to parcel creation if possible which isn't necessarily the same as parcel line creation. There are times retracing old ...

Why GIS [could] prevail [as part of an improved system]Well said. Very well said.

It's ironic that you advocate OCR capture of the coordinates from your survey documents, Kent, and lambast the idea of a precise GIS based on survey d...

There is little need for the GIS itself to be precise in what Leon is describing. The geographic objects could essentially represent links to survey p...