> I would only ask the students to learn two things to begin with. A chain and a transit. I think I've identified why it "didn't work out".

Probably same reason as in Lawton and in Portland. A few inches of gravel added to regrade potholed road. Manholes covered and soon forgotten. More gr...

If that was in Portland the passage between the brick wall and the building would be blackberries up to eye level.

SteveHang in there Steve. The well is pretty dry around here, too. Better days are coming.

SteveI think that this conversation has gone well beyond Paul's specific pipe. This is a different thread. Clearly, it would be absurd, not to say phy...

SteveSure. There are plenty of good reasons to hold uncalled for monuments that are found in the general vicinity of deed calls. And one should make a...

Absolutely.

I strongly suspect that it is a device for separating you from your $25.

Adam> I think he is describing his threshold of whether to accept or reject (set a new one) monument.Yes, that is it. And, using this process, I al...

Very common situationIf someone wishes to buy or sell a specific dimension of real estate they can certainly do that can they not? Not in your world, ...

I NEVER SAID OR INFERRED> I never said or inferred that any monument-looking object is a valid monument or a corner. What I have grown sick of is ...

So, If Monuments Mean Nothing-MarkGot it, Don. Very interesting. I'm going to have to block out some time to digest this. At first glance it does not ...

So, If Monuments Mean Nothing-Mark> Well...I think that would be a good assumption. If that were the case, It would probably be more like a 19-wor...

Lucas, September '10I might add a reference to Lucas n the September '10 edition of POB. In footnote 1 he states:"The first surveyor concept falls sho...

So, If Monuments Mean Nothing-Mark> I'm not going to post a 19 page decision here.Fair enough. But I think we can fairly assume that this is much m...

MarkI read Lucas regularly. I have yet to see proof from him that when a surveyor places a monument it automatically fixes the corner. It may fix the ...

So, If Monuments Mean Nothing-MarkSo it's not on any plans and misses the deed dimensions by 50'. It must have been fairly apparent to have been found...

KrisIf the deed calls for a stake, and you find something that you can reasonably call a stake, then you may have a called for monument. Apply your kn...